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Visual improvements in Cinnamon
Within the team Joseph continues to work his magic. Bit by bit he’s improving the look and feel of the Cinnamon desktop.
The new default theme landed on the master branch. It’s much darker and contrasted than before. Objects are rounded and a gap was introduced between the applets and the panel.
The dialogs were redesigned. They’re nicely balanced and feature separated buttons.
When an application is frozen and no longer responds Cinnamon shows a “Force Quit” dialog. This used to be a Gtk window. It was rewritten in Clutter to look like the rest of Cinnamon:
The media-buttons OSD looks more modern and much cleaner than before:
and so does the Workspace OSD:
Joseph is also working on notifications, animations, the main menu, pkexec/logout dialogs, a new status applet… but I don’t want to show you too much yet. We’ll cover this in the news, little by little during the development cycle, as it gets finalized and becomes ready for inclusion in the next version of Cinnamon.
Aptkit
The transition towards Aptkit and Captain is now finished. Starting with Linux Mint 22.1, set to be released this December, none of our projects will depend on aptdaemon, synaptic, gdebi or apturl anymore.
Aptdaemon, mintcommon’s aptdaemon module and ubiquity will eventually be discontinued.
The transition towards Aptkit and Captain gives us the following benefits:
- No more translation issues. Everything is now fully translated.
- No more bugs/papercuts. We no longer depend on unmaintained components which are upstream from us.
- Redefined scope. Anything we didn’t need was removed, anything that was missing (purging packages, downgrading to specific packages etc..) was added.
This allowed us to completely refactor the code in the Update Manager and greatly simplify its architecture. It worked well but it had been written decades ago and some of the techniques and components it relied on weren’t future-proof. Its multithreading code was deprecated and hard to maintain. It depended on Synaptic and technology related to Gtk.Plug/Socket which couldn’t work in Wayland. It also handled multi-processing calls and serialization itself. All of this was simplified.
In the Software Sources tool, the downgrading of foreign packages was performed via a VTE (an embedded terminal). This is now handled by Aptkit directly, with a nice progress dialog.
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New looks is cool. Great job by Joseph. Will this be rolled out as an update or will it be part of upcoming Linux mint release 22.1?
It will be part of Cinnamon 6.4 in Mint 22.1.
Hi Clem
Look forward to seeing the visual improvements, Joseph is doing a great job. Quick question, will synaptic still be available following the aptkit and captain transition?
Synaptic will continue to be available in the repositories and it will no longer be patched (i.e. it will regain its ability to update packages). It won’t be included in Mint by default though.
Thanks for the reply Clem, much appreciated 🙂
At first glance it looks very nice and with better contrast. Hopefully this redesign can include transparency and blur settings, and maybe new default wallpapers. Another addition that would be interesting would be to update the Papirus theme and add another icon theme with great support like Tela.
Mint is splendid in many ways and perhaps the only thing it was lacking was the default graphics,I am very happy that you also put some effort into it.
Best regards
Pd: Clem, can we have an access for the system monitor in the panel? Sometimes the desktop crashes because of some processes, I think it would be useful to have something handy to kill those processes.
I also think that it is necessary to add the function of opening the system monitor by clicking the right mouse button. Since some applications may freeze
Agree!
System Monitor should always be readily accessible on our emergency aid kit.
Personally I don’t complain about system stability but when it rarely happens, a quick and reliable access to the System Monitor is a must. On MATE we can right click on the panel’s separator between the Menu Button and the 1st icon on its right side and have System Monitor presented as one of the options. Cinnamon doesn’t necessarily have to copy this one, but introduce something similar, simple, readily accessible and ergonomic.
Mmmm… Now thinking, I should configure a shortcut for it to do something alike the CTRL+Alt+Del thingy on Windows…
Try the “Force Quit” applet
If you go into the System Settings and select Actions, then the download tab near the top. You will find a Gnome System Monitor Action. This will give you the ability to right click and select the system monitor.
Great job Clem and Joseph, but Joseph is a great guy! The new design is a bit like the Material from Android, which looks very modern, cool and beautiful!
Pd: Clem, of course I bother with my request with every comment in the newsletter. But when the next version of Linux Mint 21.1 will have your xplayer media player and when you can expect improvements (Pipewire support, for example) and fixes for graphics bugs when rewinding, although on version 21.3 it played videos/movies quite well, it has always been my only best media since my first version (22) the default player, I’ve never really liked VLC or the outdated Celluloid, and this is a reason to work and improve xplayer.
And yes, Clem, can xplayer be the default in the next version of Mint? Clem, please don’t throw away the best media player, I really appreciate it and your work on it.
Well, it wouldn’t hurt to have rtf, fb2 and chm support in xreader, as I commented in the last newsletter.
Good luck to you, Clem and the Linux Mint development team for your hard work for the benefit of us and for the comfort of using this distribution.
I don’t speak for clem but xplayer is no longer developed. It hasn’t been for several years and I don’t know of any plans to bring it back to life.
JosephM, If it is not being developed, then it is very bad, first of all for me. Celluloid and VLC are not the best alternative to xplayer and parole.
If I look at the installation instructions on various web sites. it will say something like:
sudo apt install application-name
If apt is removed – this isn’t going to work.
It certainly won’t work for LMDE
apt isn’t going anywhere.
Also please note that captain provides the same functionality as gdebi and apturl combined.
Clem, you still haven’t answered my request: Will there be an improved and fixed xplayer in the next release?
@Ioann You shouldn’t override someone else’s comment with your question. You already asked yours in your own comment, wait for a reply or ask it in the forums.
I love using dark themes thanks
@Clem, what about our beloved and dependable tools like gdebi, apt and dpkg, I’m guessing they will still be available, right? (you have already replied regarding Synaptic). Many thanks and cheers.
Many thanks to the Team and kudos to Joseph for his great improvements on Cinnamon’s visuals.
Cinnamon is the main face of Linux Mint and I’m happy seeing the pointy sharp GTK spikes being filed and polished. I always admire when seeing visual design being done right, even in this flat trend paradigm.
Just a quick hint and request to Joseph: Please make the contrast between active and background windows immediately and easily noticeable. Same for Nemo’s double panels. Even today I find myself trying to work on a panel that ends up being the inactive one. Making contents a tiny less sharp or dim, but always easily readable? Dunno, just throwing ideas, work your wise magic Joseph.
I’m really really curious about the new version of Cinnamon.
Appreciation for your work and that fridge IQ part of my brain thanks you most dearly.
Just to call the attention of the Team on this:
On Mint 22 the VA-API video hardware acceleration on VLC for Intel CPUs is broken, it seems something upstream on Debian with ffmpeg and the last time I’ve checked the maintainer was unlikely to fix it.
Celluloid and MPV work perfectly tough.
On my old Intel NUC with a N3700 CPU I only get a couple FPS while playing video with hardware acceleration enabled. Disabling it solves the problem but simple video playing becomes heavier on the CPU when it could be trivial using it’s hardware capabilities. And me loves VLC!
Will there be a white, or mixed theme as well? I have eyes issues, and I can’t read with the dark theme.
I use the Cinnamon desktop with the latest version of Mint, and I also prefer dark themes, firstly I find that they are less physically stressful on the eye, and secondly I use GIMP a lot for photo editing, and a dark theme doesn’t affect visual perception of colours and contrast as a bright theme does. A dark theme stays “out of the way”, so to speak.
I also find them more modern and pleasing to my personal taste.
Of course, the great thing about Mint is that it has always been about providing options so we can have whatever theme we like.
Thanks and Best Wishes to everyone involved in building and maintaining Mint.
Looks good: I like the new darker theme.
Can you please ensure all these dialog-windows have:
1) one button pre-selected so it can be togged via keyboard?
2) a visible marker, indicating which button is currently selected?
3) a shortcut key which can be used by pressing Alt+ and get’s underlined (by default or latest when pressing/holding Alt)
Thank you
I don’t like such ultra dark themes, and I use Synaptic and Gdebi all the time… I only hope that users like me won’t be disappointed.
It’s impressive how you manage to make such significant changes and improvements without breaking LM.
In Mintinstall, we can see if a package is a System package or a Flatpak package. But we don’t know if it comes from a LM official repository or from an Ubuntu official repository or from a PPA or from an additional repository. Could you add this information in the Details tab?
While rounded corners etc look OK, I have to say that it is all a bit academic really. I personally don’t care whether corners are straight or curved. I don’t take much notice except to use the function. The main thing I would say is please, please don’t be influenced by the monstrosity that is the Windows 11 desktop design, or Apple for that matter. We don’t need a look-a-like.
I agree, but GUI world is extremely trend-driven.
No matter what, people will be “pulled” towards trends (both developers and users).
Thanks for the update.
Please enure that these new dialogs:
1) Have a pre-selected button which is marked visually
2) The selected button can be changed via keyboard (tab or arrow keys) and activated by Space or Enter
3) Ideally each button can be executed by Alt+
Thank you. 🙂
It would also be good for the return key to complete the definition of a custom shortcut. Currently only a mouse click will do this.
Thanks.
hi clem will the windows also have rounded edges?
Is the upgrade path from 21.3 still unstable?
I also waited a few months because I was worried but I have updated both Dell XPS 13 2 days ago without any issues. One laptop is 6 years old and the other one is 11 years old.
le finestre sono solamente arrotondate sopra non in basso mi sembra incoerente
Since notifications were mentioned as something that is being worked on, would it be possible to have more location options for notifications. Currently, it seems that we can select which monitor and whether it is on the top right or bottom right.
I find that the corners of the screen often are the places that I am most likely going to be interacting with something else. So while, notifications are useful, they often pop up and get in the way. I’d probably prefer to have a notification appear on the right side or left side of the screen, but at a middle height.
Wow, this new theme surprised me, this new version 22.1 promises to be interesting… new themes, new looks, everything new 🤩
My name is Mint, Linux Mint 😎
Great, and will all this ported to LMDE as well?
Thanks!
Same question regarding MATE & XFCE desktop versions of Mint 22.1?
Rounded edges and some possibility to add a floating panel would be amazing, something like KDE Plasma does today.
I loved the rounded redesign.
Looks modern and fresh.
Noticed also the font is different, like more bright (I can’t explain exactly what I mean). Anyway, it’s good.
Keep up the good work!
Hello, are there plans to implement (at least partially) new theming in the Xfce edition?
XFCE and MATE seem to be the fifth wheel of the wagon on MINT.
Me I wouldn’t mind knowing how much of this the visual changes will be ported down to 21.x? Is Cinnamon updated on older versions as well?
I currently run a rather stable OS (LM 21.2 Cinnamon) with a Qemu/KVM based VM with Windows 10 using GPU Passthrough for my photography (Topaz, Radiant Photo, DXO) which I plan to keep for quite some time as I’ve learned that there are kernel changes with 6.x that changes how GPU Passthorugh is managed, and the few attempts att upgrading have always ended with rolling it all back in Timeshift.
I’d love to jump onto LM 22 and a newer kernel but I just don’t have the time to figure things out with a bi weekly photo “delivery”, and since LM 21.x will keep being supported for quite some time…
Is rounding the lower corners of windows something that could only be done in wayland?
Black does not mean beautiful (at least for me). And I hope synaptic and gdebi will still work in the future as I use both quite often.
That’s cute, but half of your upgrade population is still getting a black screen on boot. It feels like we’re getting the North Carolina treatment. Maybe check your github reports? Please?
@JAG Amen …
I like my square edges and I didn’t want a new default theme. Will I be able to use the current default theme after an update? What should I do—back it up now or just never update Cinnamon?
Just my 2 cents as a user since Mint 7:
Mint could appeal to a larger user base just by changing the default wallpapers.
The new improvements do seem a step forward, but (and i hope you take this as constructive criticism) it looked best in 2020. So even that ‘style’ is getting dated.
I’m not a designer, so i’m only good at criticising… But i guess may throwing in so transparency, maybe going back to the roots and addind green and blue (instead of white) themes, but keeping the white as a default.
And last but not the least, make the whole OS consistent and follow the same rules.
This means getting rid of the custom icosn, which i’m sure were made with lots of love, care and meant hard work, but i just don’t like them. At least offer the option to revert to the original application icons.
Cheers.
clem and his team are king. i hope the power will never consume them like it has many before them. i wish you all the best team linux mint.
Im awaiting Linux Mint Debian Edition 7 (name suggestion: LMDE 7 “Metatron”) with the most beautiful and greatest joy.
Greetings
LMDE Enjojer
Goldie would be a better name according to the previous names… Elsie, Cindy, Debbie…
Can I upgrade to Lm 22? I understand there’s been some trouble. Have they been corrected?
So far is the upgrade LM 21.3-> 22.0 still a problematic. Wait for upgrade to LM 22.1 or perform clean installation of LM 22.0.
Linux Mint 22, 64 bit worked good until I installed google earth from synaptic, then the mouse pointer goes crazy and goes all over the screen. I read the page about touch pad issues, but the work around did not work. Google earth worked fine on windows 10.
What is the problem for LM 21.3-> 22.0 upgrade?
I did an upgrade (in a VM) and didn’t encounter anything seriously bad.
I’d always suggest you try a dry run upgrade in a VM (if possible), so you know in advance whats going to happen – and take a data backup on external media before actually running the upgrade on your live system.
There are a lot of problems …
Upgrade in a VM is definitely not a crucial test! Many users report problems with black screen on boot (often with connected with nvidia driver) after upgrade. Another problem is the system freeze with kernel 6.8.0.xx. Etc, etc. …
My computer is AMD Ryzen 5 5600G, GTX 1660 Ti, nvidia-driver-535. Black screen with Nvidia drivers occurs because Nvidia erroneously creates a ghost PRIME Display, in addition to real physical display. Login hint: If the login screen is partly black, no login field. But in my computer, the login field is somewhere and active! If I just type the password blindly, I succeed to login. The screen remains partly black/garbled. I can logout with ctrl+alt+del keys, without a mouse, and the normal login screen with desktop background appears. Now I can login in a perfectly normal manner.
If you manage to login, run Nvidia settings, and you see two displays, a ghost(PRIME) and a real display. Info text from Nvidia settings: “PRIME Displays cannot be controlled by nvidia-settins and must be configured by an external RandR capable tool. The display is shown in the layout window above for informational purposes only.” Therefore, the screen is sometimes black.
You can disable the ghost screen by writing a short config file. Solution from web page askubuntu.com questions 1516532 how-do-i-disable-get-rid-of-prime-none-1-1-display
First, open a terminal and run xrandr to identify your screens. Take note of the name of the ghost device; mine was None-1-1.
Then create your config file:
sudo xed /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-monitor.conf
Paste the following, making sure to replace the None-1-1 with the name you identified in the previous step:
Section “Monitor”
Identifier “None-1-1”
Option “Ignore” “true”
EndSection
Save the file and reboot.
I was surprised to read about problems with the upgrade from 21.3 –> 22…and I have not done it on a VM but on my live system.
I must say that the process was very stable and the machine upgraded without any major issues. Thank you for that.
I would like to think that the problems mentioned are linked to specific HW/SW cases and not a general issue.
I highlight this point because one of the main reasons why I am a permanent Linux Mint user, is that LM offer such an efficient and stable upgrade process between versions that it is very difficult to match. And, I have been experiencing this for many releases with LM.
The focus on simplifying the user’s life in the face of new OS releases is your hallmark and as a user our benefit.
Thank you for maintaining this functionality.