LMDE 2 “Betsy” MATE released!

Written by Clem on Friday, April 10th, 2015 @ 11:11 am | Main Topics

The team is proud to announce the release of LMDE 2 “Betsy” MATE.

LMDE 2 “Betsy” MATE Edition

LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) is a very exciting distribution, targeted at experienced users, which provides the same environment as Linux Mint but uses Debian as its package base, instead of Ubuntu.

LMDE is less mainstream than Linux Mint, it has a much smaller user base, it is not compatible with PPAs, and it lacks a few features. That makes it a bit harder to use and harder to find help for, so it is not recommended for novice users.

LMDE is however slightly faster than Linux Mint and it runs newer packages. Life on the LMDE side can be exciting. There are no point releases in LMDE 2, except for bug fixes and security fixes base packages stay the same, but Mint and desktop components are updated continuously. When ready, newly developed features get directly into LMDE 2, whereas they are staged for inclusion on the next upcoming Linux Mint 17.x point release. Consequently, Linux Mint users only run new features when a new point release comes out and they opt-in to upgrade to it. LMDE 2 users don’t have that choice, but they also don’t have to wait for new packages to mature and they usually get to run them first. It’s more risky, but more exciting.

Important info:

  • Login and password for the live session
  • Gtk theme and icons failing to load
  • Multi-core and multi-CPU support in 32-bit kernel
  • Modprobe errors, warning messages during the boot sequence
  • Yumi multiboot

Make sure to read the “Release Notes” to be aware of important info or known issues related to this release.

System requirements:

  • x86 processor (Linux Mint 64-bit requires a 64-bit processor. Linux Mint 32-bit works on both 32-bit and 64-bit processors).
  • 512MB RAM (1GB recommended for a comfortable usage).
  • 9GB of disk space (20GB recommended).
  • Graphics card capable of 800×600 resolution (1024×768 recommended).
  • DVD drive or USB port

Upgrade instructions:

We’re currently working on an upgrade path for LMDE 1 users.

Announcements will be made on this blog when the upgrade is ready.

Download:Md5 sum:

  • 32-bit: 55d22b55687770f7e60013ccf1575baf
  • 64-bit: c925dad6559f2a76392a997841bf690a

Torrents:

HTTP Mirrors for the 32-bit DVD ISO:

HTTP Mirrors for the 64-bit DVD ISO:

Enjoy!

We look forward to receiving your feedback. Thank you for using Linux Mint and have a lot of fun with this new release!

93 Responses to “LMDE 2 “Betsy” MATE released!”

  1. Sebastien says:

    so cool ! downloading right now…

  2. Sebastien says:

    Is XFCE planed in LMDE as well ?

  3. AndyA says:

    I installed it yesterday, keeping my old /home partition. Its working brilliantly, even on this 9 year old PC. The only complaint is that I have to remove ‘quiet splash’ from the boot parameters every time. Fortunately I don’t reboot often!

  4. Dawid says:

    This is great news! Contgratulations for the team! Now I’m waiting for the promised upgrade path from the original LMDE. I guess some time is needed for this to mature but I’m thrilled for this new release. Already tried the RC on one system and it’s great, as always 🙂

  5. Lacko says:

    Thank you , i have an old Desktop PC and will try to install the Mate Version of LMDE. Is it based on debian stable that will come out in 2 Weeks or on wich debian, Nr. Name?

  6. Stefan says:

    I am very excited. I switched from Win7 to Mint entirely over a year ago. I will definitly take a look in Virtualbox and Seed the Torrent. Maybe thats for me, since I love MATE and thought about switching to Debian some time ago. With a Mint on top it can’t be bad 😀

  7. acrophoenix says:

    Excited news! Thanks clem!

  8. Woodchip says:

    Another reason why Mint remains number 1.

    Waiting for the upgrade path too, have been running LMDE1 without any problems for six months. If the upgrade path goes smooth, then I will never have to be a distro hopper ever again.

  9. Felipe says:

    While is interesting a Distro based on Jessie done by Mint Team, I’m not confortable because is based on Jessie RC, I concerned about the upgrade process to the Final Release of debian jessie. At least Mint Cinnamon RC are only suitable for testing, and when the final release is done there are new isos and the RC must be deleted, not upgraded/updated.

  10. Mikael Lagerstedt says:

    Good news. Thanks to everyone who has been involved, good work.

  11. Guilherme says:

    is it shipping with or without systemd?

    Edit by Clem: Without (it’s using sysvinit + consolekit/logind).

  12. Az4x4 says:

    At last! Thank you Clem and your entire team. LMDE1 has been my preferred distro since it first appeared. Glad to see LMDE2 finally available. Backing up and installing a fresh system later today! No sense waiting for the upgrade path when I can have everything done in a short time as is!

  13. Crystal the Glaceon says:

    I noticed it says “There are no point releases in LMDE 2, except for bug fixes and security fixes base packages stay the same, but Mint and desktop components are updated continuously.”
    Does this mean it’s a rolling release or semi-rolling distro? And what Debian version is based on? I know it says “Jessie,” which last I checked is currently frozen and will be turning into the next Debian stable. So basically my point is, is how is the update cycle going to work and will we have decently updated packages because Debian Stable tends to hold onto their packages for a very long time and they get old fast.

    Edit by Clem: No, it’s a frozen release as far as the base is concerned. We’ll respin the ISOs and update the desktop layers though.

  14. Ignoramus says:

    Installing GUFW with the package manager didn’t work 🙁

  15. vins says:

    Barring the virtualbox, which I am struggling to get it working, rest is excellent.

  16. fortran says:

    Thank you Clem and all development team. I think this will be a good option. Greetings.

  17. sdr snowdust says:

    Installed Betsy Mate-64, installation went without a glitch. First, I “sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade” and got 22 updated files. Successfully removed and installed applications, reconfigured tzdata, installed lib32z1 and lib32ncurses5 + Brother DCP-7060D multifunction printer/scanner drivers, installed ‘gedit’ and edited /etc/group so printer/scanner is now printing and scanning with Simple Scan. Will try Xsane later on. To sum up in 1 word: EXCELLENT. Very grateful to Clem and dev team.

  18. fkosa says:

    Does the installer support encrypted root (dm-crypt in lvm) out of the box or it has to be configured manually?

    Edit by Clem: It doesn’t. It has an expert mode where you can do that manually though.

  19. sdr snowdust says:

    I have downloaded and installed the Dalisha 3.0 icon set. Now how can I switch from the current set to the Dalisha set? I have looked at the Menu Preferences/Administration/System Tools with no luck. Can a team member give me some pointers? Thanks in advance.

  20. Roman says:

    I hope the upgrade for LMDE1 will come soon. Waited nuff! Thanks for a distro that stays longer than just a few months.

  21. mikef90000 says:

    Noticed that the .iso dates on all the mirrors I’ve checked is April 6 – is this correct?

    Edit by Clem: Yes.

  22. Crystal the Glaceon says:

    What the application layer? The only thing concerning me about the Debian Stable base is that Debian loves to draw out their testing period for their applications and they tend to get really old really fast. So how’s that going to be handled?

    Edit by Clem: It really depends on the applications. Typically you can expect the base and libraries to remain the same (with some exceptions), and popular applications to be updated based on demand.

  23. Crystal the Glaceon says:

    Final question because I can’t seem to get a solid answer and google is coming up with mixed results. Is this a rolling release/semi-rolling distro? Googling it brought up articles claiming it was rolling, the forums are giving me mixed results and even the official description is rather cryptic. So is this distro going to stay with Debian stable or will it jump back to Testing at later point? Is is really rolling?

    Edit by Clem: No, it’s not. LMDE 2 will always be based on Jessie. This is a frozen cycle, similar to what Mint does on Ubuntu.

  24. Rick says:

    Say Clem, LMDE 2 MATE 32-bit Live Disk Doesn’t Load Completely. Anyone else with this problem? It loads so far and then I got a blank screen. Checked disk integrity and it was OK. I have been using Mint on my Lenovo T61 Thinkpads for the past 3 years without a hitch. The laptop in question previously had LMDE 1 201403 on it and it ran flawlessly. I don’t see how it can be the laptop,

    Edit by Clem: Hi Rick, try to remove “quiet splash” from the boot arguments.

  25. Crystal the Glaceon says:

    Thank you for the solid answer! I will currently testing it out since LMDE 1 was one of my favorite distros and I hope this one will be just as great.

  26. Sands207 says:

    Looks great!! Can we add ppa’s to this release?

    Edit by Clem: No, you should only add packages or repositories for either Betsy or Jessie.

  27. hoagies says:

    lmde-2 ‘mate’ 32 bit installed on pentium iv system with intel board boots into black screen …. how to solve this problem ..?? it boots ok using the ‘recovery feature’ !! but recovery is not persistent !!

    Edit by Clem: Try to remove “quiet splash” from the boot arguments.

  28. IL says:

    Hi

    LMDE2 is wonderful as LMDE, and now even better stable system with the last desktop environment on top of it – I like that:-)
    I can run it even on pentum 3 733MHz with 256Mb ram, and it works very nice.

    I hope to find XFCE 4.12 in the repository – very curious to see it.

    Thanks
    God bless you all.

  29. William says:

    Clem, you are a true linux champion!

  30. LMDE232bit says:

    FYI, ‘isolinux.bin missing or corrupt’ when booting a p4 3ghz from USB with iso that matched md5 before writing, same as with RC. On more recent 64bit box, same usb boots perfectly, same as with RC.

  31. Christian Fechteler says:

    Can not install on a SAMSUNG nc10-plus: The windows for entering all the necessary items like language, timezone, partition etc, are quite too big, and i cannot resize them, so i have no chance to access the buttons, or i must try it “blind”.
    Is there any chance to install by means of the terminal?

    Edit by Clem: Hi, you can move windows by dragging them with the mouse while pressing ALT.

  32. Lizbeth says:

    I am loving the new LMDE 2. Thank you! Does the 32 bit by default
    still work with non-pae machines? I hope so because it could be a big draw for folks tith older machines.

  33. Sudip Bhattacharya says:

    When I tried installing LMDE 2 Mate edition (32 bit) [lmde-2-201503-mate-32bit.iso] on Vmware Workstation 11, the installer did not come up properly positioned. The buttons are not visible in the Language selection screen. I have a screenshot but this comment submission form does not allow attachments.

  34. Tango says:

    Great! One question does Netflix works in LMDE2. I had a problem running Netflix in Debian Wheezy.

  35. OS2User says:

    Is there a particular technical reason, that ‘Hardware Sensors Monitor’ is missing from the available panel addons?

  36. marc says:

    I had problems with the RC, with my IBM Thinkpad. My wifi was functionning intermittently, and I had to reboot after wake ups.

    I did a fresh install of the stable release, and the problem was gone.

    Thank you Clem and your team!!!! Merci infiniment!!!

  37. Jack H. says:

    I installed LMDE 32 Mate. Everything worked so far. I am using an HP G7 with a P6300 CPU. Love it. Thank you very much.

    Well I am having problems with the new blurberry bluetooth – but that isn’t something I care about.

  38. Sharon says:

    Thanks! 😀

  39. Estêvão says:

    Running the 64bit version smootly on my VMware Workstation. Great release!

  40. Ricard says:

    Thanks so much. I was already using Debian Jessie, but the Mint additions are very nice.

    Ricard

    PS: I do not find the (easy) answer to AndyA complain about the ‘quiet splash’ boot parameters, so I venture to suggest to him to edit the env variable GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in the file /etc/default/grub.

  41. Hugo Masse says:

    Lovely jubbly! This is worse than distro-hopping: deciding between 17.X ubuntu-based, which is LTS, or LMDE, which will roll with Debian!

    I also want to commend Linux Mint for not succumbing to the recent trend I see in iOS, Windows, KDE, Manjaro, Semplice, etc. of using thin, silhouette basic-coloured icons! Never change that, please!

  42. Ruben says:

    Hello: Please write the page in spanish also

  43. Frank says:

    Hi Clem,

    Are there any plans to do away with the messages during start-up (estetic change, but Mint is about estetics) and enabling home directory as well as full-disk encryption in the guided installation? What would the time frame be for this? If so how would these changes be delivered? Through a new ISO?

    Thank you to Clem and the team for the great work!
    Frank

  44. Danny Burdick says:

    Long time devotee to Debian
    Have installed countless Mint installs for new to linux with never unhappy person…
    Just booted up Betsy on my home machine emachine 64bit
    Beautiful…everything works including my usb hp 1006 printer…
    Congrats on a job well done

    You make Linux proud….

  45. chazchance# says:

    Guess I had better get the latest version, since the “long term support” for my current version dried up as soon as the next version was released.

    Will you stop defining releases as LTS when they are going to be supported for less than a year?

    Edit by Clem: Mint 13 and Mint 17 are LTS, they’re respectively supported until 2017 and 2019.

  46. DreamsComeTrue says:

    Thanks Cleam and Team for Hard Work to made this Distro.
    I missing Linux Kernel 4.0 Stable in Mint Any Releases.
    And two word of new Mint Box AMD is made bad CPU and GPU. I Don`t need to pay for losing company and hardware.

  47. Christoph says:

    Works great on my Lenovo T400.
    Pulseaudio 5.0 and Alsa 1.028 are actually newer than normal Ubuntu based version Mint Cinnamon (4.0 and 1.0.27.2)
    Thanks!

  48. BillWho says:

    cpu 1.66 GHz Core Solo 32-bit
    ram 2 GB

    ” …….1………2………3..
    LMDE2 MATE stable
    Live CD
    + ethernet wire – works
    + ethernet wifi – does not find bcm4311
    + loud BEEP on restart or shutdown

    after install to harddrive
    + ethernet wire – does not find bcm4401
    + ethernet wifi – does not find bcm4311
    + loud BEEP on restart or shutdown

    edit /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-sta-dkms.conf
    + comment out blacklisted b44 (wire) and b43 (wifi)
    + restart – ethernet wire works
    + install firmware-b43-installer via Software Manager
    + restart – ethernet wifi works

    ” …….1………2………3..
    Linux Mint XFCE 17.1 stable
    Live CD
    + ethernet wire – works
    + ethernet wifi – does not find bcm4311
    + no BEEP on restart or shutdown

    after install to harddrive
    + ethernet wire – does not find bcm4401
    + ethernet wifi – does not find bcm4311
    + no BEEP on restart or shutdown

    edit /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-sta-dkms.conf
    + comment out blacklisted b44 (wire) and b43 (wifi)
    + restart – ethernet wire works
    + install firmware-b43-installer via Software Manager
    + restart – ethernet wifi works

    ” …….1………2………3..
    Both XFCE and MATE perform well.
    MATE works well other than the loud BEEP on restart or shutdown.
    Without doubt I prefer XFCE. Looking forward to LM XFCE 17.2

  49. BillWho says:

    Some how missed adding the notebook model to comment #41

    Dell Inspiron E1505
    cpu 1.66 GHz Core Solo 32-bit
    ram 2 GB

  50. Sebastien says:

    @28: I’d love to run LMDE with XFCE. Unfortunatly, LMDE is unlikely to flavour XFCE ever. Would you recommend installing XFCE on top of LMDE Mate instead of installing XFCE from a plain Debian ? For instance, it seems that compiz is not in Debian repos, that makes one point for LMDE I guess.

  51. Alireza says:

    Hi,
    Thanks for the effort. When/How can I upgrade my LMDE 2 beta to the current final version?

  52. Niyas C says:

    I tried previous release of LMDE 2 years ago.
    It was draining my battery very fast. I don’t know whether things are improved now or not

  53. BillWho says:

    @Sebastien
    I used Synaptic Package Manager to install ‘xfce4’ and ‘xfce4-goodies’ on top of LMDE MATE. I much prefer XFCE to MATE.

    Mostly it works very good, some settings did not show up in the settings panel… power manager…

    I do not know if it was something I did, or if it was not there to begin with. I need to do it again and pay more attention.

    I will post the result in a day or two.

  54. Jochen says:

    Congratulations to the LMDE team! Betsy has been running very smoothly on my Intel I3 system since I installed it last weekend.

    One issue I have so far come across, however, with my installation: when I tried to install the “libavcodec-extra-56” package (to use it with kdenlive) Synaptic wanted to uninstall many other installed applications such as kdenlive, digikam, darktable, gimp, vlc, ffmpeg etc. On Linux Mint 17.1. I encountered no such problem – I could just add the extracodecs.

  55. Craig says:

    I just installed LMDE2 on two different physical machines. One has a nvidia GT220 graphics card and it works fine after installing the “nvidia-driver” and “nvidia-xconfig” programs. After I moved the xorg.conf file from /root/ to the proper folder, /etc/X11/ I think, (-; it works fine. This video card has HDMI sound so it had to have this driver and the sound works fine with no extra configuration hassles!
    The second system has an ATI and I am using the default video driver. On this install I installed XFCE on top of Mate and it works fine with no problems noted, yet. I did alter the XFCE appearance to use the MintX appearance and it looks great.
    Congrats to everyone who worked on this. It is nice!

  56. BillWho says:

    xfce4-goodies

    Reading more carefully, I see I missed the following line amongst all the packages:

    “Some packages are only suggested because they bring too much dependencies, but you may find them interesting:”

    * Power Manager (xfce4-power-manager)

    Now I see the ‘Power Manager’ needs to be added manually.

  57. Rodrigo says:

    It looks cool, but it has a lot of bugs.

    I don’t know why I can’t save my theme preferences. I change the wallpaper or any style and when I restart the system, it goes back as how it was when I first installed :/

    When I open theme preferences it takes a long time to open.

    When I try to upgrade the OS using update manager it gets frozen and it doesn’t respond.

    Update manager is not in the panel anymore, I have to launch it by going to Menu and Administration which is pretty annoying\.

    I’ve used this system for about 2 days and I don’t like all the bugs that this version has. I use to love the first version but this is not as good as I expected.

  58. Victor says:

    Does this mean that you are not going to release any other Update pack for LMDE 1?

  59. frodopogo says:

    Installed LMDE 2 MATE a couple of days ago- so far, looks good, no problems. I’m looking to be able to get newer versions of Audacity this way- that’s the main reason I did it.

    I finally realized that most of the other distros I could have done something similar with were not going to give me the comfort level that Mint LMDE2 would. It’s fun sometimes to explore something different, but not when you’re trying to get something done!

    Thanks Clem and team for all your hard work!

  60. simon says:

    @frodopogo — you’d have been better off with Linux Mint 17.x and the WebUpd8 PPA…

  61. NoWay says:

    Hi Cleam!Why after instal LMDE2 of USB to Hard Drive Mint Cannot Load and Stay Only Black Screen.No Messages for Error? What i most to do to be Worked LMDE2?
    Strange for me how it possible work in Bootable USB Drive but if i install in Hard Drive Cannot Runing this Distro?

  62. Rick says:

    To Clem & team: I was able to normally run live and install the LMDE 2 MATE 64-bit version on my Lenovo Thinkpad T61. However, the 32-bit version has problems and would not even run live OK or install correctly. In the live mode, it will only run in compatibility mode. If you try to run it live normally it will hang up on a black screen. I was able to install it but then it only runs in recovery mode. There are serious problems with this 32-bit version which need to be addressed. I have never had problems this serious with Linux Mint since I started using it with LM 12 3-1/2 years ago. All versions have run out of the box until now. I hope this problem gets back to Clem and his team.

    Edit by Clem: Hi Rick, please troubleshoot and find the cause of the issue. It’s likely to be related to the particular hardware you’re using.

  63. zanfi says:

    Hi, is er anybody that can answer to my question? I installed lmde2 mate over a lmde1 cinnanmon, when I had to choose the partition I gave / (root) with the intention to overwrite the old installation. I restart the pc and I find a new environment (mate) but I was able to find all my docs in my home folders and all the stuff. Was this the intention of LMDE2?

    Cheers

    Edit by Clem: No, are you using a dedicated /home partition? If so you have to specify you want it to be formatted as well. Most people who use a /home partition want to preserve the existing data so the default behavior is not to format it.

  64. peter says:

    @ Zanfi:
    Yes, the default is to preserve all the data in the /home partition. If you want to overwrite all the data in your /home you need to specify “format” in the installer.

  65. zanfi says:

    Thanks, I didn’t know it. So It does means that I have installed a new version preserving all my data/home stuff. If it is so, it is really cool. Perfect!

  66. Sebastien says:

    @BillWho: ok; it seems to work fine for me so far. I might try a pure Debian XFCE besides to compare both bases for XFCE desktop: LMDE vs. vanilla Debian. The best option would have been an official LMDE XFCE release though (did I ever mention this before ? 😉 )

  67. uneekname says:

    To BillWho at #48 above:

    On the subject of BEEPS at logoff (and login):

    I encountered this annoyance in installing LMDE back in 2012.

    I found I could turn off the beeps via a ‘volume control mixer’ —
    by muting the ‘Beep’ device on a ‘Playback’ mixer panel.

    The following page has images and detailed step-by-step instructions
    on how I did this.

    http://www.subdude-site.com/WebPages_Local/RefInfo/Computer/Linux/LinuxMint_Installs/linuxMintDebianEdition_install_blaze.htm#above_BEEPS

  68. uneekname says:

    TO (AndyA at #3) and (Clem at #24) and (Clem at #27) and (Ricard at #40)
    above:

    On the subject of removing ‘quiet splash’ from the boot parameters:

    I would like to make a suggestion for adding a prompt in the sequence
    of prompts in ANY Linux Mint install-to-disk procedure — a prompt asking
    whether the user wants ‘quiet splash’ in their boot parameters. (I assume
    this is possible — after all, anything is possible with Linux, right?)

    I personally do not like to look at a nice blank bootup/login screen for about
    40 seconds wondering what is going on underneath the covers. I actually
    would rather see all that ‘ugly’ text scrolling by showing me the sequence
    of operations going on during the boot-up.

    In #40 above, Ricard ventured to suggest to AndyA to edit the env variable
    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in the file /etc/default/grub — to remove
    ‘quiet splash’.

    The prompt for whether to include ‘quiet splash’ could display a couple of
    lines pointing this out — for those who would like to later add or remove
    ‘quiet splash’ from their bootup procedure.

  69. BillWho says:

    @uneekname
    I know this is not setting a default but…

    If you “would rather see all that ‘ugly’ text scrolling”

    On all the machines I have tried, “F12” will toggle ‘ugly’ text or ‘quiet splash’.

    I found this by accident.
    I would like documentation on other startup options.

  70. uneekname says:

    In reference to
    (Clem at #31 above) and (Clem at #39 on http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2808):

    I wish I had a dollar for every time Clem has to tell people installing
    on computers with small screens (low number of vertical scan lines —
    like netbooks):

    “You can press the ALT key and move windows by dragging them with the mouse.”
    or some permutation of those words.

    If Linux desktop environment developers would put the ALT-key hints
    on windows — like they used to do on Unix windows — a lot of grief
    could be avoided.

    Some sample ALT-hint images are on this page:

    http://www.subdude-site.com/WebPages_Local/RefInfo/Computer/Linux/UbuntuInstalls/LinuxWindowMoveIssues/linux_window_move_issues.htm

  71. uneekname says:

    In case it wasn’t clear what I was hinting at in item 70 above:

    The developers of the MATE and Cinnamon environments have the opportunity to put ALT-key hints in their windows.

  72. student says:

    Polska przejmuje czat! ! ! <3

  73. Rick says:

    I think LMDE 2 32-bit version needs work and is not ready for prime time. There is no way I know of to troubleshoot the problems I had trying to run it live or install it, when the 64-bit version ran live and then installed without a hitch. IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads are some of the most compatible laptops for ANY version of Linux. I have run live and installed MANY different distros on my T61 Thinkpads and NEVER had these types of problems. It simply can’t be a hardware issue.

  74. GILLES says:

    boot from ISO (burned on DVD5) : OK.
    But installation program failed.
    It freezes after asking me information ike machine name, and so on…

    So I Can’t install it.
    What a pitty.

  75. Distro-Don says:

    Downloaded LMDE Betsy 2 64 bit version’s iso as soon as it became available, copied it to my easy2boot thumb drive, booted it, installed it on to my ssd with absolutely no problems what so ever and it has been preforming perfectly ever since. This is the finest Linux distribution that I have ever used. Clem and all the other team members, congratulations and a very warm thank you to all of you.

  76. James R McKenzie says:

    Is there a KDE version of LMDE (preferably in 64-bit)? I’ve tried searching for it so far I can’t find anything. Anyone have an answer?

  77. Estêvão says:

    @James R McKenzie

    There is no LMDE KDE Edition, just Cinnamon and MATE editions.

  78. François Blais says:

    I wish Clem does an XFCE version for LMDE 2.

    Merci à l’avance Clem! 😉

  79. alamanjani says:

    Clem,

    Just want to thank you for all the work you do and special thanks for Betsy!

  80. OS2User says:

    Unfortunately there is some major setback with this release in terms of graphics and older Radeon GPUs.

    $ lspci -nn | grep -i VGA
    LMDE2: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS100 [Radeon IGP 320M] [1002:4336]
    LM17.1: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS100 [Radeon IGP 320M] [1002:4336]

    $ inxi -fGMSc0 >> /media/mint/USB30FD-60G/LM8-GroupPerm/LM-Mate-Radeon
    System: Host: mint Kernel: 3.16.0-4-586 i686 (32 bit) Host: mint Kernel: 3.13.0-37-generic i686 (32 bit)
    Desktop: MATE 1.8.1 Desktop: N/A
    Distro: LinuxMint 2 betsy Distro: Linux Mint 17.1 Rebecca
    Machine: System: Compaq product: Presario 900 v: 0100 System: Compaq (portable) product: Presario 900 version: 0100
    Mobo: Compaq model: 07D4h v: KBC : 1327 Mobo: Compaq model: 07D4h version: KBC : 1327
    Bios: Phoenix v: 0F0B date: 11/25/2003 Bios: Phoenix version: 0F0B date: 11/25/2003
    CPU: Single core AMD Athlon (-UP-) cache: 512 KB clocked at 1987 MHz Single core AMD Athlon (-UP-) cache: 512 KB clocked at 1987.614 MHz
    CPU Flags: 3dnow 3dnowext cmov cx8 de fpu fxsr mca mce mmx mmxext CPU Flags: 3dnow 3dnowext cmov cx8 de fpu fxsr mca mce mmx mmxext
    mp msr mtrr pae pat pge pse pse36 sep sse syscall tsc vme vmmcall mp msr mtrr pae pat pge pse pse36 sep sse syscall tsc vme
    Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RS100 [Radeon IGP 320M] Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RS100 [Radeon IGP 320M]
    Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 X.Org: 1.15.1
    drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
    Resolution: 1024×768@60.00hz Resolution: 1024×768@60.0hz
    GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI R100 (RS100 4336) x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE DRI2 GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI R100 (RS100 4336) x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE NO-TCL DRI2
    GLX Version: 1.3 Mesa 10.3.2 GLX Version: 1.3 Mesa 10.1.3

    With LM 17.1 and before

  81. OS2User says:

    Unfortunately there is some major regression with this release in terms of graphics and older Radeon GPUs.

    $ lspci -nn | grep -i VGA (This is supposed to be a 2 column comparison):
    LMDE2: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS100 [Radeon IGP 320M] [1002:4336]
    LM17.1: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS100 [Radeon IGP 320M] [1002:4336]

    $ inxi -fGMSc0 >> /media/mint/USB30FD-60G/LM8-GroupPerm/LM-Mate-Radeon
    System: Host: mint Kernel: 3.16.0-4-586 i686 (32 bit) Host: mint Kernel: 3.13.0-37-generic i686 (32 bit)
    Desktop: MATE 1.8.1 Desktop: N/A
    Distro: LinuxMint 2 betsy Distro: Linux Mint 17.1 Rebecca
    Machine: System: Compaq product: Presario 900 v: 0100 System: Compaq (portable) product: Presario 900 version: 0100
    Mobo: Compaq model: 07D4h v: KBC : 1327 Mobo: Compaq model: 07D4h version: KBC : 1327
    Bios: Phoenix v: 0F0B date: 11/25/2003 Bios: Phoenix version: 0F0B date: 11/25/2003
    CPU: Single core AMD Athlon (-UP-) cache: 512 KB clocked at 1987 MHz Single core AMD Athlon (-UP-) cache: 512 KB clocked at 1987.614 MHz
    CPU Flags: 3dnow 3dnowext cmov cx8 de fpu fxsr mca mce mmx mmxext CPU Flags: 3dnow 3dnowext cmov cx8 de fpu fxsr mca mce mmx mmxext
    mp msr mtrr pae pat pge pse pse36 sep sse syscall tsc vme vmmcall mp msr mtrr pae pat pge pse pse36 sep sse syscall tsc vme
    Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RS100 [Radeon IGP 320M] Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RS100 [Radeon IGP 320M]
    Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 X.Org: 1.15.1
    drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
    Resolution: 1024×768@60.00hz Resolution: 1024×768@60.0hz
    GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI R100 (RS100 4336) x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE DRI2 GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI R100 (RS100 4336) x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE NO-TCL DRI2
    GLX Version: 1.3 Mesa 10.3.2 GLX Version: 1.3 Mesa 10.1.3

    With LMDE-2 for the first time now I have exactly the same 100% CPU load issues here on this Radeon IGP 320M laptop as I have with a R420 [Radeon X800 PRO/GTO AGP] on a desktop, when it comes to video playback with VLC, Banshee or Totem.
    Even the new Mate System Monitor’s simple usage diagram line output now causes a very high CPU load, making it basically unusable.
    On the R420 system I am forced to use the ‘radeon.modeset=0’ kernel parameter, not only for LMDE-2 but for all recent LM Mate releases as well, in order to avoid a system freeze during the transition to the GUI, causing a very nasty side effect, 100% CPU loads with all media players and things like the System Monitor usage/load diagrams.

    But now this also happens for the first time on a device, where I never even had to use that kernel parameter, rendering LMDE-2 completely useless here.

    Am I correct in suspecting the X.org radeon driver and if so, is there any solution known to mankind, to fix this intolerable high CPU-usage graphics issue, not only for the IGP 320M laptop, but also for the desktop machines, depending on the ‘radeon.modeset=0’ setting?

  82. Jesus Pardo says:

    Hello, iI have my pc with LMDE1 itś working fine with gnome y have installed kde, I want upgrade to LMDE2, I need to quit gnome, kde and install cinamon or mate? Thanks my english is bad. good day.

  83. OS2User says:

    @uneekname (#70)
    I totally agree with your request.
    Just because some designer doesn’t find it aesthetically enough to have those shortcuts listed after the according (pull down) menu line, doesn’t make it a sane or good decision at all.
    People have much better things to do than chasing the web for the right shortcuts and then memorize those for the next umpteen years to come, simply because they are not being shown anymore.
    Those very wise men of the earlier days knew what they where doing, with many of today’s developers/designer’s decisions I often have some severe doubts about their mental well-being.

  84. OS2User says:

    @BillWho Says (#69):
    Unfortunately your F12 discovery doesn’t work on the Live-DVD and I really wish that there would be an easier way to remove ‘quiet splash’ other than to have to Backspace the whole thing.
    Is there any secret way to left-delete on a word by word basis in the kernel boot parameter line?

  85. anonymoi says:

    cant wait…still on up1(?) would like upgrade 🙂

  86. uneekname says:

    In reference to
    (BillWho at #69 above) and (OS2User at #81 above):

    It is not surprising to me that OS2User reports that ‘F12’ DID NOT
    WORK for him — in trying to get the ‘ugly’ boot messages to display.

    In fact, on my Acer netbook computers, the ‘F12’ key is used during
    bootup to bring up one of the BIOS menus (the BIOS menu that allows you
    to resequence the devices that are checked for boot startup code).

    A person would have to very precisely time the pressing of the ‘F12’ key
    (after the BIOS does its thing, and in the brief period in which
    Grub2 is doing its thing) — to get the attention of Grub2 —
    to get Grub2 to allow the boot messages to show.

    Even using the right-SHIFT key, which is supposed to cause the
    Grub2 menu to show (according to
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2),
    DID NOT WORK (for me) — on my desktop system
    (which is running Ubuntu 9.10).

    Since I am running no other operating system on this computer,
    Grub2 defaults to not showing the Grub2 menu (as documented at
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Configuring_GRUB_2).
    Instead, the bootup process proceeds immediately into the kernel
    bootup sequence — although the documentation says that the
    (right) SHIFT key should allow for showing the Grub2 menu,
    even in the case of running just one operating system.

    In case this is of any help to other Linux Grub2 users, here is
    what I did to get the boot messages to show:

    Logged in and opened a terminal window and used the following commands.

    cd /etc/default

    sudo cp grub grub_ORIG (made a backup copy of the ‘grub’ file)

    sudo gedit grub (started editing the ‘grub’ file)

    In the ‘grub’ file:

    Changed the line
    GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
    to
    GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=6

    Changed the line
    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”quiet splash”
    to
    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=””

    Changed the commented line
    #GRUB_GFXMODE=640×480
    to
    GRUB_GFXMODE=1024×768

    Saved the /etc/default/grub file —
    along with a backup to /etc/default/grub_2015apr24.

    cd /boot/grub

    sudo cp grub.cfg grub.cfg_ORIG (made a backup file)

    Then ran the command
    update-grub

    This put appropriate changes in /boot/grub/grub.cfg —
    which I could see by doing
    diff grub.cfg grub.cfg_ORIG

    Then I shutdown and booted up again.

    Now, after some BIOS boot messages, I can hold down RIGHT-SHIFT
    and the Grub2 menu shows up (for up to 6 seconds).

    I can press Enter to go into the default Linux boot up.
    Boot messages now show — instead of about 30-plus seconds
    of looking at a small Ubuntu logo in the middle of the screen
    — until an Ubuntu login-screen appears.

    By the way, on my desktop machine, ‘grub-install -v’ shows

    grub-install (GNU GRUB 1.97~beta4)

    This was an early version of Grub2.

    Similar results can be expected in a Linux Mint Grub2 bootup.
    But, perhaps, right-SHIFT will work for some Mint users,
    to show the Grub2 menu, without ‘grub.cfg’ changes like those above.

  87. uneekname says:

    Sorry. That should be OS2User at #82 — not #81.

    Also, the Grub2 menu shows for up to 10 seconds, because
    I did not change the line
    GRUB_TIMEOUT=”10″
    in /etc/default/grub.

  88. uneekname says:

    In #83 above, the line

    In case this is of any help to other Linux Grub2 users, here is
    what I did to get the boot messages to show:

    SHOULD HAVE BEEN

    In case this is of any help to other Linux Grub2 users, here is
    what I did to get the boot messages to show AND allow for
    bringing up the Grub2 menu:

  89. stan reichardt says:

    There has been an ongoing LibreOffice Start Center issue with the Base database that I know of, at least since LinuxMint MATE 16 RC, and LMDE MATE UP8. It continues thru to LinuxMint 17.1 and LinuxMint Debian Edition 2 (LMDE2).

    This issue was brought up by a long time Linux user on our local mailing list back in November 2013. I have already seen a few more instances of newcomer confusion at our beginner LUG.

    While recommending LinuxMint MATE to all Linux newcomers I make sure to mention the workaround, that they have to specifically use Synaptic to download the “libreoffice-base” database package, even though “libreoffice-base-core” is listed as being installed. It is easy for novices to miss the distinction.

    > Bug 75369 [StartCenter] Non-installed applications aren’t greyed out
    > (4.2 regression)
    > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75369

    The LibreOffice developers claim that some distros choose to not install all components of LibreOffice, i.e. Base, Draw and Math.

    So, could the LibreOffice team arbitrarily include BASE, as a workaround, when building next releases or LibreOffice updates?

  90. kbd47 says:

    Installed MATE 32 bit tonight and works very well. Great job Clem & Team!
    Since this is based on Debian 8 am I correct in thinking it has 5 years of security updates just like Debian Jessie?
    Thanks again!

  91. François Blais says:

    BTW, Debian 8 is now officially released.

  92. Sivan says:

    Any idea when the upgrade instructions will be available for users of LMDE 1?

    Edit by Clem: Hi Sivan, we’re still working on it. Sorry it’s taking long.

  93. tux-sven says:

    Has it been problems with the update source mirrors? (Mint and Debian) Almost impossible to get an answer about the fastest mirror. Only shows 0%, even after a very long while.


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