Linux Mint 18.3 “Sylvia” Cinnamon – BETA Release

This is the BETA release for Linux Mint 18.3 “Sylvia” Cinnamon Edition.

Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia Cinnamon Edition

Linux Mint 18.3 is a long term support release which will be supported until 2021. It comes with updated software and brings refinements and many new features to make your desktop even more comfortable to use.

New features:

This new version of Linux Mint contains many improvements.

For an overview of the new features please visit:

What’s new in Linux Mint 18.3 Cinnamon“.

Important info:

The release notes provide important information about known issues, as well as explanations, workarounds and solutions.

To read the release notes, please visit:

Release Notes for Linux Mint 18.3 Cinnamon

System requirements:

  • 1GB RAM (2GB recommended for a comfortable usage).
  • 15GB of disk space (20GB recommended).
  • 1024×768 resolution (on lower resolutions, press ALT to drag windows with the mouse if they don’t fit in the screen).

Notes:

  • The 64-bit ISO can boot with BIOS or UEFI.
  • The 32-bit ISO can only boot with BIOS.
  • The 64-bit ISO is recommended for all modern computers (Almost all computers sold since 2007 are equipped with 64-bit processors).

Upgrade instructions:

  • This BETA release might contain critical bugs, please only use it for testing purposes and to help the Linux Mint team fix issues prior to the stable release.
  • It will be possible to upgrade from this BETA to the stable release.
  • It will also be possible to upgrade from Linux Mint 18.2. Upgrade instructions will be published after the stable release of Linux Mint 18.3.

Bug reports:

  • Please report bugs below in the comment section of this blog.
  • When reporting bugs, please be as accurate as possible and include any information that might help developers reproduce the issue or understand the cause of the issue:
    • Bugs we can reproduce, or which cause we understand are usually fixed very easily.
    • It is important to mention whether a bug happens “always”, or “sometimes”, and what triggers it.
    • If a bug happens but didn’t happen before, or doesn’t happen in another distribution, or doesn’t happen in a different environment, please mention it and try to pinpoint the differences at play.
    • If we can’t reproduce a particular bug and we don’t understand its cause, it’s unlikely we’ll be able to fix it.
  • Please visit https://github.com/linuxmint/Roadmap to follow the progress of the development team between the BETA and the stable release.

Download links:

Here are the download links for the 64-bit ISO:

A 32-bit ISO image is also available at https://www.linuxmint.com/download_all.php.

Integrity and authenticity checks:

Once you have downloaded an image, please verify its integrity and authenticity.

Anyone can produce fake ISO images, it is your responsibility to check you are downloading the official ones.

Enjoy!

We look forward to receiving your feedback. Many thanks in advance for testing the BETA!

160 comments

  1. Hi – Release features look impressive and will give it a shot soon! Cinnamon and Mint are growing and becoming mature with every release.
    I was wondering if backup manager can be released as an update to all users which will helps users to take backup (say 18.2) before they upgrade to 18.3.

    1. Hey Anand,
      using a beta backup solution is not a good idear. Stick with your current solutions, at least for your workstation. When 18.3 leaves testing and becomes an official release you will be able to install the backup solutions even under 18.2.
      All the best,
      Chrizzldi

  2. I’m gobsmacked by the amount of upgrades in this release. Mint 18 is finally coming of age and 18.3 shows every sign of matching the calibre of the 17.3 vintage.

  3. Nice job, welcome Sylvia.
    Typo in the beta release annoucement :
    – The 64-bit ISO is recommend for all modern computers
    + The 64-bit ISO is recommended for all modern computers
    – It will also be possible to upgrade from Linux Mint 18.1.
    + It will also be possible to upgrade from Linux Mint 18.2.

  4. Great…in this release now i can finally use ‘natural (reverse) scrolling’ with my mouse by a short command in the terminal…** xinput –set-int-prop 8 “libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled” 8 1 **
    However i still hope to see a switch in the mouse settings soon.
    THX for your work! 🙂

  5. Everything sounds really great! Looking forward to the final release!
    I would like to suggest one thing. Maybe in the future release. I find it very useful when a pdf viewer has options in print menu such as to print current page, current view, to choose odd or even pages. Also when scaling dialog includes: none, fit, shrink and booklet lay out. I only see those in Adobe reader 9 which is not supported for sometime now and is glitchy. Would be so cool to have them in native pdf viewer!

    1. Xreader (the native Mint 18 PDF Viewer) has those printing options, namely print all, print current page or print specified pages (you enter the pages you want)

  6. LM18.3 beta x64
    Software Manager bug:
    1) remove one package with dependencies (in my case Virtualbox)
    2) accept to remove the dependecies
    After the process is compleated Software Manager show the dependencies as installed, even if the user search again.
    Restarting Software Manager fix the problem.

    1. This is by design.. we only rebuild the tiles (i.e. the visual elements) of the software you installed/removed. We could go further and actively lookup dependencies as well I guess. Please create a github issue for this so we can look at it and implement it in the future.

    2. Is there any reason to design the Software Managers to display/marked packages as install, witch in reality are not installed?
      If it was missed I can understand it but in the case this was intentional, I don’t understant the logic.
      Unfortunately I do not have a github account and I do not intend to create one.
      I would be very usefull if you can integrate in the future a bug reporting tool maybe in the system reports.
      It should be easy without accounts…

  7. My only problem with all of the Linux versions is the insistence that a password must be entered to do any system changes,, This included HDMI connections
    My laptop is always connected to my TV via HDMI, if at any time I switch the laptop off, when switching on again I would have to re configure the HDMI SOUND connection.
    including having to insert a password, just to do something that should be automatic.

    For this reason, Linux is not USER FRIENDLY for me and cannot be used , especially if my family want to listen to music or watch a movie via the laptop

    1. That’s strange.

      I use HDMI all the time and never have I been asked to enter my password, be it with Mint or any other Linux distribution.

  8. Hi, just installed LM 18.3 Cinnamon in a VM of Vmware Fusion. Unfortunately the app software-sources does not work. It offers the legitimation window and after that nothing happens.
    Hope this hint helps and many thanks for your fantastic work.
    Tom

  9. Sorry, I tried to paste the terminal’s text but your firewall hinders me to publish because of html content. But I think there was no html. I just copied from terminal.

    1. Hi Thomas,

      That’s ok, we got the trace in the other comments. It’s a unicode issue, it’s not very complicated. We’ll send an update as soon as it’s fixed.

      More interesting to the bug itself is the fact that such bugs are usually detected by our QA process. There’s a test especially for that, but it’s run in English. We’ll probably adapt that as well 🙂

  10. Не могу подключить VPN l2tp не могли бы вы включить в live образ ? Без интернета установить не получаться .

  11. Linux mint 18.3 Beta, x64

    Bug Report:

    * The users and groups asks for password and when it opens the window it appears ask for password again and it gets in an infinite loop.

    * Ppa fonts do not open through the system central, neither by the update manager nor by the menu.

    * Bluetooth in system settings takes several minutes to open.

    * Desklets in the Download option, the download failed with the following message “A problem occurred while trying to access the server, please try again later.
    Details: HTTP Error 400: Bad Request ”

    * Xedit has some untranslated items for pt_BR in the “View, Larger Text, Smaller Text, Normal size” option.

    1. I believe those strings in Xed are available for translation on Launchpad. Someone just needs to do them.

    2. I can reproduce the Bluetooth issue that VaGNaroK mentions as well but only if Bluetooth has been disabled first. Open the Bluetooth applet, disable Bluetooth and close (you may have to reboot first before attempting to enable Bluetooth for the problem to occur).

      Then, in Settings, click on the Bluetooth icon. It will take a minute or so for the Bluetooth applet window to appear. Once Bluetooth is enabled and the window is closed the Bluetooth applet will start nearly instantly from then on like it should. I reproduced this twice out of 4 tries so it doesn’t appear to happen every time. Unfortunately I didn’t have time to run this through the terminal to pick up any errors.

      This is on Mint 18.3/Cinnamon 64-bit.

  12. Linux mint 18.3 Beta, x64

    Bug Report:

    * When opening the kernel manager, the warning window is not fully translated into pt_BR, already in mint 18.2 it is fully translated.

  13. Hi Clem
    cinnamon crashes on the test version of 18.3
    i was installing a script to restart the network manager and cinnamon crashed 3 times.
    This problem was happening in cinnamon 17.3 even while the computer was idle, however the problem seems to be worse as it is happening more often
    my system is
    operating system linux mint cinnamon 64 bit
    cinnanom 3.6.2
    kernel 4.10.0-38-generic
    intel celeron cpu n3060
    3.7 gig ram
    graphic card intel corporation device 22b1
    Below is the script

    =====================START SCRIPT==========================

    #nano refresh-net

    #!/bin/bash

    # Refresh network connections

    sudo service network-manager restart

    sleep 10

    exit

    ====================END SCRIPT=============================

    if you need any further information then please contact me

    1. Hi Dave,

      Where’s the stack trace? We developed a tool especially to gather crash reports.. can you run System Reports from the menu and find the stack trace for this crash? You can pastebin it then so we can look at it.

      Thanks for the explanations on how to reproduce the issue. They’re clear and precise. We can’t reproduce the issue in a VM here, but we’ll try on a couple of HW.

    2. Also… does Cinnamon “ALWAYS” crash when you run this script? Every single time?

      And if so, can you try editing the script to see which instructions make it crash? i.e. test it with only the sleep 10, and only the nm restart.

    3. i have paste bin it to github, the bug re-occured 3 times, bit hasn’t happened since.
      to execute the script, i type refresh-net into the terminal

    4. i edited the script , i removed the sleep from it and then run the script several times and had no crashes, so it seems problem fixed

    5. Ah ah… no, that’s not how we fix problems 🙂

      Put back the sleep, remove the NM restart, test it a 100 times. Do the same the other way around (with no sleep, and only the NM restart) and confirm observations until you know exactly what makes it crash.

      We also need that backtrace from mintreport…

      Dave, you’re seeing something we want to fix right now. But if we can’t reproduce it, and if we don’t have that backtrace, chances will be slim we’ll be able to do anything.

    6. i noticed that this version is using system d and so my script is wrong, however i used the command
      sudo systemctl restart network-manager
      the result : restarts net work manager sometimes and other times cinnamon crashes. i have no idea what to do

  14. Clem it looks great so far. only problem I had with the live cinnamon release was I could not load anything from the new software store, which looks awesome btw! I will try installing it on a a spare computer soon!
    thank you!!

    1. Hi Dan,

      I assume this is post-install (parts of it won’t work in live mode).. try to run it from the command line (“mintinstall”) and see if you can get some error output.

  15. Thank you for all the work! A feature I’d love to see in a future release is being able to annotate PDF (including adding a signature) in Xreader.

  16. The mint-y should be the default theme. There are one billion wallpapers, but just a few themes. Why no install Arc theme too or mint-y in another colors?

    1. Because GTK 3.18 isn’t stable yet (in regards to theme engines), because the jump to 19 is where we decided to switch to Mint-Y, and before that theme needs a little bit more work and polish before we derive it into a multitude of colors. But it will happen in time, eventually 🙂

  17. Hello.
    ** BUG **
    I tried to install some flathub packages through the software manager, but they can’t. Non flatpak packages install quickly and without problem.
    The I tried installing flathub packages with the terminal, and got this error:
    error: While pulling runtime/org.gnome.Platform/x86_64/3.24 from remote flathub: Writing object 5e032e08e01053e1af725e92ad8cfd9a7da1ef3acbda4e2ee5819065e2462f03.file: fsetxattr(user.ostreemeta): Operation not supported.
    I tried with different packages, all with the same result.
    All done from an installation of Cinnamon Beta on 16GB USB pendrive made with Etcher (I don’t know if that matters).

  18. LM 18.3 Cinnamon beta:

    With display resolution of 1366×768 the Software Manager is just a bit longer then the screen (the status bar hides part of it) – I think that this very useful utility should fit into this resolution (which many laptops use).

    …Just installed it – everything looks amazing. The Software Manager looks beautiful. The Cinnamon Menu works fine now for Right-to-Left languages (thanks for the fix!). I’ve also seen the option to Auto-Login (thanks again).

    Very easy dual-boot installation on a Toshiba laptop with no problems at all. Thanks a lot.

    About LM 18.2 Cinnamon:

    On another Dell-E5430 laptop where I’ve installed Linux Mint Cinnamon 18.2, I can see that the brightness (and even the sound) are set to 100% anytime the laptop wakes up from sleep (when I open the lead). It also happens when I log out or switch user: the brightness set to 100%, and sometimes also the volume is set to 100%.
    It might be related to that hardware (which is well supported by Ubuntu/Linux Mint) – but maybe not…

    1. I agree that a good hardware info program is missing in the control panel.

      I just had a new HP laptop to install last week, where the Wi-Fi driver is still not supported by Ubuntu (apparently) – the first thing that you need is any possible information about the hardware (I needed ‘lshw’, ‘lspci’, ‘iwconfig’, ‘hardinfo’, etc, just to understand what device is not working and the “ID” of that device, which was a few haxa digits…).

      A good hardware info program is a program that can provide practical information about devices which are not working at all, or working partially; information that can help you search in the Internet for a solution. I mean any info that helps you identify the “ID” of a device, even if this device is not supported at all by the system.

    2. The problem with many hardware info programs is that they do not give an exact “ID” for a device, which you can look for in the Internet for solution.

      For example, on HP 250 G6 Notebook with Wi-Fi device: “Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.” – I could only get the device ID with ‘lsusb’ command, and that ID is: 10ec:d723 (which has no driver yet for Ubuntu).

      Using this ID I could find information on the Internet. But hardinfo and other programs don’t show you this important info… and you cannot use these programs to find help in the Internet in these cases.

  19. Clem why can’t I install a printer driver in the live version? this happens with other versions of mint if they are run from either a cd or usb drive?
    thanks
    Dan

  20. Nice release. I think I’ll give Cinnamon a try again!
    One question: in new features – GNOME Online Accounts you mentioned: “this support makes it possible to browse Google Drive and OwnCloud in Nemo.”
    How is it with NextCloud? Quick search suggests that it should be compatible but some people had issues before.

  21. I agree with Richard Booysen. After I plug in my HDMI connection to watch a movie or listen to music from my laptop and forget to switch the sound back to the built in speaker, whatever applications used the HDMI output will no longer is able to switch. The only workaround is that I have to find a TV with HDMI and plug my laptop back in then switch the output destination. What a pain.

  22. Install a few flatpak successfully. Since flatpak apps ignore current theming (? for now) some of the more popular themes are available at flathub for installation but they not present in the store. Are you planning to add them also in the list ?

    1. Btw just want to clarify that for now those FP themes are applied to flatpak applications independently of the Mint theme. But if identical themes are selected, you get uniformity among both types of apps. At least from what I tested.

    2. Absolutely.

      Before we can get Mint-Y and Mint-X into Flathub though or have them installed by default even, we’ll need to make Flatpak builds for them. And before that can happen, we’ll need to adapt these themes to work with GTK 3.26. This is something we need to do in preparation for Mint 19 anyway and it will be in the roadmap.

  23. Hi Clem (et al.),
    Extremely impressed by improvements made!

    Currently testing 64-bit version with VirtualBox (Mint GA removed, 5.1.30 GA installed)

    – Menu
    Intended behaviour? Application list (right hand column) no longer uses all space available to list applications, long lists now finish level with Places

    – Nemo
    Following issue is also present in 18.3
    https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo/issues/1642

    – Panel edit mode
    Applets can not be repositioned, except in central green area, left (red) and right (blue) areas appear grey and non-functional

    – Software Manager
    With updated version, if you now manage application categories, is it possible to move ‘darktable’ to the Photography category?

    Keep up the great work! 🙂

  24. Bug report:
    1) install Caffeine or any other software that will appear in Startup Applications
    2) uninstall it
    3) Open Startup Application and the link is still there

  25. Music players (Spotify and Google Play Music) installed from flatpak repository does not show up in “Launch Player” menu in sound applet. Also when using bluetooth headphones that show up like “headset” in bluetooth settings manager starts with really low sound quality and when changed to “high fidelity” in sound settings the sound is good but the setting is not saved after bluetooth headphones is disconnected and can not be toggled to high fidelity again without doing the pairing process all over again. This problem also exists in Ubuntu 16.04 but is fixed in 17.10.

  26. mintinstall shows the progress bar in the panel only if mintinstall has the current program on the window. If you click the back arrow in mintintall and search for more programs to install, the progress bar does not show in the panel. Please make the progress bar in the panel remain even if the back arrow in mintinstall has been selected (eg searching for more software to install). Thank you

  27. Quick question about Linux Mint BETA’s:

    When 18.3 is officially released, can I stay on the beta and still be able to upgrade to the next version(19)?

    In other words, is there any difference between the BETA and 18.3 upon official release?

    1. Hi Jake,

      Usually the only difference between BETA and STABLE is the set of updates we send you for the bug fixes. So you if you apply these, you don’t need to reinstall when the stable release is out.

      If anything else differs and is significant, we will cover it in the announcements.

  28. In my old test PC, recovering from standby, the desktop is completely frozen except the mouse. I can access a terminal ctr-alt-f1 but that’s about it. Granted it’s an old bugger. (Athlon 64 3500 + ATI X550). I also have Xubuntu 17.10, windows 7 and they work fine on recovery.

  29. Why are you deleting bug-reports? Neither the maximize problem of the software manager at 1024×768 nor the requirement to press multiple times TAB/SHIFT-TAB for navigation from field to field at software manager are resolved with last update – pls leave some reply so I could decide to whether I should invest more time on testing the beta… – or just delete this reply

    1. So far so good. Install went smoothly and all hardware was recognized. System is stable.

      I’m still getting all of my various packages installed, but haven’t encountered any issues. Bonus points for having nVidia Optimus detected and installed correctly of of the box. That’s been a sticking point in previous releases, but was smooth as butter this time.

      Loving the various system improvements.

  30. 18.3 is nice work, as usual.

    My perennial feature request is to allow the user to adjust the size of the fonts in the main menu and in panel applets such as the calendar. I understand that the user can adjust the panel height, which in turn adjusts the size of the fonts in the task manager — but even there, the user can’t specify a font size. So all the font sizes are configurable — except the font size of panel items, which seems to be completely dependent on the author of the panel theme. Since cinnamon is so configurable, it would make more sense to allow the end user to configure the font sizes used in panel items as well.

    Thanks for your consideration!

    1. You can get bigger font size of the panel and it’s items (menu, calendar), if you go to Menu -> Accessibility -> Large Text

      Or you could the Accessibility Applet.

    2. Heedermann: I know. That just makes the whole thing look ugly, and still doesn’t give you any actual control over the font size.

  31. *** BUG ***
    — Nemo file manager: You enable start is always in two panel views
    – Restart Nemo
    – Modify the sidebar size!
    – Restart Nemo
    – Nemo forgotten the sidebar set size (it is problem in the former Nemo version too)

    — Cinnamon system tray doesn’t work 40 (or more) windows. Solution: multi row tray.

    — Notebook specific problem:
    – Open Menu (or any menu: Volume, Device, Power etc.) and close the notebook cover.
    – Wait, until the notebook sleep.
    – Now, open notebook cover.
    – Result: Does not appear the Login window!!! This Security problem!

    1. We’ve had that design discussion many times in the past. Opening a menu will inhibit your session.

      If you leave your seat belt hanging in the door frame, your car won’t lock either. I know this illustration is a bit cheap, but the use case is arguable to start with, you can’t expect security when you the user are doing things in a hurry and without care in the first place.

      This isn’t just a policy or a decision to be stubborn about it, it has many technical implications. It’s hard to say for sure that this won’t change in the future, but as it is now, if you open a menu, don’t expect session management to be active. Doing this de-facto means your computer won’t be considered idle and will block the screensaver.

  32. What kernel will be included in the final version of 18.3? Beta version uses 4.10 which reaches end-of-life. [url]http://linux.press/?p=100624[/url]

    1. I’ve had some problems with 57 in Windows (7), i.e. it opens FIVE (or more) files all called Firefox.exe in Task Manager and sucks your RAM resources low enough to stall randomly and so I went back to 56.0.2, but THEN it just reinstalled 57 tonight when I opened it…URRGH! Talk about people getting switched to Windows 10 in midstream…I keep saying that I don’t see Firefox 57 as Ready For Prime Time yet and unfortunately I might have to remove it from an HP Pavilion P7-1111 with G620/2.6 GHz dual core…of it continues to ask badly.

      I hear happy happy joy joy from other initial users but I know that FF 56 has run better on older equipment ith Mint 18.2

      The jury is out in my court.

    2. PS If I actually knew what the five different sized files all named the same actually were about, I’d feel less inclined to shut them all down. There are usually only TWO examples of IE files listed in Windows Task Manager, and I’m sure that since I’ve found the five FF files even while NO FF WINDOWS WERE OPEN I can guess why IE wants to freeze as well. Watching my little green usage icon race up and down like it does, in the ‘high rpm’ so to speak kind of bugs me.

      I will add that I’ve got work to do getting partitions changed to allow the monthly ‘rollups’ of ~200 MB to even succeed installing as it is, and as a novice to Linux and still learning stuff about Windows after 32 years it’s a chore, even as I’ve used computers since I was 13 (and that’s 38 years now).

      This and another computer of mine were Wintel boxes I converted to Mint, this one first with Maya.

    3. And THERE IT IS (FF 57 in update)…I guess we’ll see if I survive or become another witty joke from 007 as I go.

    4. After about half a day playing with it I managed to get FF 57 as close to the way 56 was laid out for me,,,why do they gotta have next year’s model when all they change is where the cupholders go?

      Back to the sane world and waiting for Sylvia.

  33. Linux Mint Cinnamon 18.3 beta bug:

    If I Switch to another User (Switch User), and then Log-Out and return to first user:
    The system freezes or ask me to enter admin password (a password to go into sleep-mode or alike).
    So I must reboot the laptop.

    I guess that the Power Management tries to turn off the screen after 10 minutes… therefore, if I return in less then 10 minutes to the first user – there is no problem; but if I return to the first user in more then 10 minutes then the system freezes.

    This bug happens all the time (depends on the Power Management settings…).

    1. Hi Shian,

      Sorry, can you describe the steps you’re following more precisely?

      – Login user1
      – Switch user to go back to the login screen
      – Login user 2
      – Logout user 2
      – Do nothing on the login screen and wait 10 minutes

      Is that it?

    2. Thanks, the steps I’m following are:

      – Login user 1
      – Switch user to go back to the login screen
      – Login user 2 and wait more then 10 minutes // user1’s Power Management->Turn screen off == 10 minutes
      – Logout user 2 to go back to the login screen
      — Login user 1 // here the system freezes or misbehaves
      — Logout user 1 // impossible…

    3. Sorry, I need to add that user1’s:

      Turn off screen == 10 minutes;
      Suspend when inactive == never;
      Screen Saver delay == 15 minuts;

      (So the screen saver may also be the problem… I need to check)

    4. /*
      note that user1 configuration is:
      Turn off screen == 10 minutes;
      Suspend when inactive == never;
      Screen Saver delay == 15 minuts;
      */

      // I’ve checked again with these steps:

      – Login user 1
      – Switch user to go back to the login screen
      – Login user 2 and wait TEST_TIME minutes
      – Logout user 2 to go back to the login screen
      — Login user 1
      — Logout user 1

      // test results:
      if TEST_TIME == 12 minutes { there is no problem at all }
      if TEST_TIME == 25 minutes { there is no problem at all }
      if TEST_TIME == 50 minutes { system freezes/misbehave on last — Login user 1 || Logout user 1 }

      // I usually return to user1 after 50+ minutes, therefore I get this problem all the time. I’m not sure what is
      // the problem, but few times on last — Login user 1 I had to put an admin password to enter sleep mode or alike.

    5. I’ve made another test, with the exact steps and configuration like before, but this time TEST_TIME was 2+ hours and the Toshiba Satellite laptop lid was closed (sleep mode).

      When I logged in again to user 1 I had to enter a password in the following box (but in any case, if I enter the password or just close the box – the system freeze and I have to use tty1 to reboot the laptop).

      (I wrote this password box message on a paper):

      “Authentication is required for suspending the system while other users are logged in.”

      Password: ______

      Details

      Action: org.freedesktop.login1.suspend-multiple-sessions

      Supplier: The Systemd Project

      (btw, I’ve already installed the last systemd update)

  34. Great!
    But what about the best desktop environment so far, I mean … KDE ?!
    😉
    Seriously even if Cinnamon is good, KDE rules ! (for me at least 🙂
    Any idea when this edition will be released?
    Thx and have a nice day!
    P.

  35. – Timeshift
    Believe Nemo and Timeshift both use GB (as opposed to GiB) to present free space, yet Timeshift shows greater available space.

    System partition reported free space:
    Nemo 12.5 GB
    Timeshift 13.7 GB

    Bug, or is one calculating space more accurately than the other?

  36. In the distribution linux Rosa R9 plazma5 there are all possible VPN.(work with live, the entire set of VPN
    ). .. can not they be implemented in the Mint? Prices would nebylo distroutivu … accounted for after 4 years of mint use Windows. In ROSA R9 ( about eight workers VPN clients … Implement them in the Mint …. personally I have problemma l2tp.s of the non-reputed repressors install protocols I will not-it’s not safe)

    1. That isn’t a bug. The calculator app uses gnomes client side decorations so the headerbar styling is controlled by the gtk theme. Window borders aren’t drawn on these applications by Cinnamon. Because of that the theme for them will have no effect.

    2. It is possible to manage the themes in a similar way like KDE Plasma does with the gtk applications?
      Or maybe to fork the calculator.
      Cinnamon is a great DE but in my opinion there are more and more little small thinks witch needs atention.
      1) icons (eg. in system settings Input Method icon does not have same corners, Desktop icon is without cornes)
      2) main menu can be improoved now it’s similar to win 98
      3) more desktop effects and better rendering (eg. on windows scale the widow content scalling is not smooth)
      4) calendar applet is too small and has not to many options (eg. events, reminders…)
      5) kernel management can be better (eg. sort both columns to have highest version on top, add button to purge all versions, add more LTS versions)
      6) pannel applet can be improoved (eg. custom possition on the panel and order the applets in the way the user want with drag or in the applets manager by choosing the applet order)
      7) mail client integration. I would really like to have posibility to start the mail client automaticaly in the background and to have an applet to inform me about new emails

      If you will consider all this: just details witch does not deserve your attention please let me know.
      I am trying just to give feedback from the user point of view.

      Thank you for another great LM release

  37. Linux mint 18.3 Beta, x64

    Bug Report:

    after formatting a pendrive with the mint stick, you can not copy anything to the same pendrive by ejecting and putting it back. the following message appears:
    error when copying to DRIVE, the destination is read-only.

    BUG?

    1. I forgot to mention that the formatting on the same pendrive works perfectly in gparted and I can copy files on the pendrive normally.

  38. Clem,
    One thing about the new look to the website is that is difficult to make out the outline of these input comment boxes on my PC resolution. It appears as white boxes on white background. I only get a black outline when i find the box to click into.

    As for the latest release, it is looking excellent, well done to you and the team.
    I would preface my comments by saying it’s an old PC at this stage – so that might explain a lot!

    Processor Intel Atom CPR D525 @ 180 GHZ x2
    Memory 2.0 GiB
    Graphics Card: NVIDIA GT218 [ION]
    Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
    Resolution: 1280×720@60.00hz
    GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NVA8 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.0.7

    Running Cinnamon 3.6.2/ OS LM 18.3 Cinnamon 64-bit

    1) Perennial issue -> After every installation, the sound is not coming through the HDMI/DisplayPort2 by default. The system should pick this up if there is no Digitial Output (S/Pdif) connected.

    2) With PIA Manager, it connects brilliantly fast – great job on this. However, if you run the PIA Manager again from the Start Menu it clears all previous log-in details – I’m unable to re-open it from network connections icon in bottom right panel. Furthermore, after a few minutes the VPN seems to crash, as my network connection goes down, until i disconnect my VPN, at which time the internet conection is fine – I get no error message to say the VPN has gone down though, the application seems to remain running.

    3) When i select Timeshift from the start menu, it says
    “Authentication is needed to run ‘/usr/bin/env’ as the super user.”
    Should “usr/bin/env” read “timeshift”
    Also, part of the Finish button is cut off in my resolution

    4) Speaking of resolution, the Software Manager window is too high, it is going below the task Manager.

    5) In Software Manager – if you use the tab key to move between the Featured application, Editors’ Picks and Categories, you can find yourself in a position where you have one from each selected category simultaneously – so you can’t hit the Enter key. There are in all likelihood shortcut keys for the Software Manager that i’m unaware of, but just saying this isn’t great.
    Related to this, when i try to install a package, i have to use my mouse – is that correct, i can’t seem to be able to select Install by tabbing over to it or selecting CTRL+I.

    6) In the Backup tool, should the icon for Personal data (home directlory) not be the same home directory icon we see in Nemo? Nothing wrong with the filing cabinet, just inconsistent.

    7) I was seeing the Displays application icon for System Settings in the start menu at one stage, but on reboot it seemed to fix itself.

    8) Cinnamon did crash on me at one stage. I had earlier opened the bluetooth application, just to see how it looked, before closing it. After a few minutes, i went into the Network application from the Start Menu, i togged wifi from off to on, and then suddenly everything on screen froze. I got a dialogue box saying Cinnamon has crashed and was in fallback mode. I opened System Reports, where it did seem to give me a chance to post it to pastebin, but nothing happened afterwards. The error message in the System Reports did say some Bluetooth application has crashed – despite me having no bluetooth device connected nor did i have the application still open.

    9) Finally, more a request than anything, but within Keyboard application, can we add a method of remapping keys, in particular killing the CAPS lock key (not a major thing as i typically break off the Caps lock key with a screwdriver – it just would be nice to have an easy way to disable it).

    1. Hi Gerry, not sure if the same applies to MATE, but in Cinnamon I disable the CapsLock key by creating a Custom Command in Startup Applications. If you can do the same in MATE the screwdriver can stay in the box 🙂 You can try the commands below in the terminal to test them. Putting one of them into the startup process means you don’t have to enter it after each boot.

      To disable the CapsLock key: setxkbmap -option caps:none

      Alternatively, to set it to a Shift Key: xmodmap -e “keycode 66 = Shift_L NoSymbol Shift_L”

    2. Further to my previous reply, I just went digging and found a GUI option under keyboard settings to disable the CapsLock key! Ah well. Anyway if same doesn’t exist under MATE maybe my previous suggestion will be helpful anyway.

  39. Dang, must be getting tired – you are a Cinnamon user! Go to Menu/Preferences/Keyboard. Select ‘Layout’ tab. Click on ‘Options’ (lower right), select ‘Caps Lock key behavior’ and choose whichever option suits you best. Voila!

  40. Blackscreen in both 18.2 and 18.3 with my workstation:

    Dual Viewsonic VP2771 daisy chained via mini-dp of a single Nvidia 970.

    Even with a single monitor connected, via mini-dp, I get no visual feedback after the OS load selection. I do hear the welcome chime though…I’d use hdmi, but I have only one of each connector type and I need the color of my work to stay consistent across both monitors hence the daisy chain set up.

  41. [Bug Report] Inconsistency with “Window Progress” in mintUpdate 5.3.1 (Update Manager)

    Installing or Removing a new Kernel, when applying changes is happening “Window Progress” is not seen.

    Video of issue: https://streamable.com/5i9rx (1.3MB, 55 seconds) Proof just after 4 seconds.

    1. This is for Menu > Preferences > Online Accounts > Media Server.

      Not sure if it’s a bug though, As I get the same thing. I do not have any “Available Media Servers”, do you?

      I assume this is to detect existing DNLA media servers and not a place for setting servers up.

  42. Not tried it myself, but on every video of the beta I’ve seen on Youtube they’ve not managed to get a successful install with Flatpak.

  43. Desktop icons change position every boot especially mycomputer icon collides with other icons.
    Colliding icons on Desktop with manual positioning is a problem in general, please fix.

  44. Do only Cinnamon. Only Cinnamon is a popular distribution. I would not waste time on other things. Without Cinnamon I will not use Linux just yet! You would have time to complete the network manager (vpn) and implement the video installer in the lmde3 .I apologize for the translation from Russian to English and then to yours.

  45. Linux Mint 18.3 Cinnamon is pretty awesome! I haven’t a major issue, but so far:

    During installation, when display go off, i cannot bring him back, i must to reboot and go over again. This time i keep display awake and installation was normal. But when finished and and i press the reboot button on popup window, all freeze and i must to reboot manually.

    When have folders on cyrillic (bulgarian, in my case), Nemo desktop action “Set as wallpaper…” doesn’t change the wallpaper. It’s an old issue and figured out my self. I change the exec command like this:

    Exec=gsettings set org.cinnamon.desktop.background picture-uri file:///’%F’

    And now working normally. I was described the issue here: https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo/issues/1622

    In adding applets window, when the window is not on full screen, buttons for adding and remove applet a missing, they show when maximize the window. Here is a screenshot: https://yadi.sk/i/qRlQrHUS3Pnhb8

  46. NEWLY INTRODUCED BUG:
    After updating to Cinnamon 3.6.3 a new bug is introduced that screws up the calendar’s time and date appearance if it is set to “use a custom date format.” I’ve had the same result after running the updates on two different computers and also in a virtual box hosted in the first of the two. I always set my time and date format to %a %e %b %Y @ %H:%M:%S. It displayed fine on both machines and in the vbox before I ran the update.

    1. How is it messing up? That format works ok for me here. Does it give you the invalid clock format label on the panel?

      Can you check that your packages are all current? Is this Mint or another distro? In particular, check that your “cinnamon-desktop” packages are the latest versions.

  47. Nice post … i just installed Linux Mint Sonya on my netbook with screen resolution 1024*600 … and it’s run well.

  48. Hi,
    the first tests do not report bugs or bugs. Content that has been integrated with gnome online account (GOA) but CINNADOCK, because it is not re-implemented?!?!?!?
    It is frustrating that other docks are searched (PLANK ..)
    For the rest, great work !!

  49. Any plans for more color variations of the Mint-Y ? I love the icons and the interface itself, but would be nice to have more options for it like “blue” instead of “green”, etc…

  50. Hi, great release, thank you all!
    Bugs and glitches
    – I don’t see the point for the energy-setting switch “enable hibernate” – it’s available in different menus already, even if the switch is disabled.
    – If you remove an active theme, it’s not switched to the default theme as it was before.
    – The menu-applet animation is still very sluggish (if enabled). Why not use a simple fade in effect like in the good old days? All other transitions look great!
    – Spices buttons on the bottom are not shown (in German) until you resize the window horizontally.

  51. Bug Report
    Cinnamon looks great, just upgraded from Ubuntu 16.04 lts, which worked flawlessly. I am having consistent mouse problems however with this new Mint 18.3 cinnamon 64 bit. The mouse will freeze, switching usb ports will unfreeze it for a moment, but the problem soon again appears. After a couple times of this happening cinnamon will become completely unresponsive and I have to reboot (can’t access terminal or anything). Reboot fixes problem for a few minutes, then it happens again. Does this no matter which mouse I use, have tried several all work fine on other systems. To be clear, Cinnamon itself is locking up. Page freezes, clock stops, system becomes unresponsive. This, however, happens a few moments after the mouse freezes (keyboard will still be responsive and clock will advance for a moment, then the Cinnamon environment completely locks up).
    AMD Phenom 9550 Quad-Core
    4.6 GiB ram

  52. Cinnamon Mint 18.3 BETA
    Laptop with Touchpad, No touchscreen.

    [CONFUSION] Just wanting better meaning to default values.

    Menu > Preferences > Mouse and Touchpad | Touchpad

    General | Click actions defaults as Automatic
    Scrolling | Scrolling method defaults as Automatic

    As great as Automatic may seem, it really does not mean much in the context of things and would be better if this actually defaulted to some value of what it does to avoid confusion. I feel this is a step backwards, even though every Mint install always has me first changing these things after I discover my touchpad doesn’t work how I want it to.

    Click actions | Automatic for me defaulted to Left click only (I think? or emulate mouse buttons?), my preference however is Use multiple fingers for right click and middle click. If a default value I could understand was shown, at least I would have known my issue right away.

    Scrolling method | Automatic for me defaulted to 2 finger scrolling, I am a long time edge scroller, so again left with confusion over why I couldn’t scroll with a touchpad and it has also changed from previous installs. It’s normally worse with reverse scrolling, because it also feels like nothing happens when I try scrolling down.

    Although I see the benefits of 2 finger scrolling for a touchscreen with Reverse scrolling direction enabled. It’s hard to adjust to Reverse scrolling direction with a touchpad (for me). It’s one of my pet peeves and feel it’s not a “default” that should be on. Maybe there should be a poll on what defaults should be set? As an old computer user, no OS ever trains you into using new methods, they just throw you into the deep end and hope that you can swim.

    Apart from Automatic having no meaning, these other things are personal preferences and I do not mind having to change them, it’s normally a once off things for me, and may not be worth the effort. Any means of scrolling however, sounds like it’d fit everyones needs.

    Thank you.

  53. To confirm a couple of issues others have seen with software manager-
    -Installed Flatpaks don’t appear in menu until logout/re-login. This is confusing and makes you think install failed.
    -As someone else commented, losing the progress bar when you move away from the item you’re installing to continue browsing the software manager leaves you uninformed unless you browse back to the initial app. The previous software manager did this better.

    Other than that, I’m loving it. Go team!

  54. When Firefox is downloading file(s), please enable the Firefox item in the panel to show the status of the download. Thank you

  55. Cinnamon 18.3: another great beta from Mint. A few nits …

    (1) I assigned the ‘Launch web browser’ launcher in keyboard settings to a keystroke combination, with firefox as my default browser. When I pressed the keystroke, firefox started up. However the firefox window did not have focus. I had to click in the browser window first in order to use any of the browser’s own hotkeys, such as control L or control J to positiion the cursor. This happened absolutely consistently. (In fact, it has been happening with Mint as long as I can remember.)

    I just discovered that if I define a custom shortcut key for firefox, the problem does not occur at all. So that’s an easy fix for me, but perhaps the pre-defined launcher should be repaired.

    (2) It would be really nice if you would make the scroll buttons a slightly different color or value from the scroll bars they sit in. They are too hard to locate, especially for people with less than perfect vision. The grey-on-grey is very elegant, but a little more contrast would help a lot.

  56. Hello Clem and Team,
    Thank you for all of your works

    I have one issue with users and groups in cinnamon-settings.
    Whiles I can change full name in user information, but I can’t type of user’s full name in Korean Hangul in users and groups.
    I assume that it might be an issue of permission.
    All of the input methods works well in user information.
    It happens only into users and groups in cinnamon-settings full name.
    Thank you.

  57. [Bug Report]
    Linux Mint Cinnamon 18.3 Sylvia BETA

    Menu > Administration > Backup Tool

    When backing up hidden folders from my home directory. If a file is not backed up, I get:

    https://i.imgur.com/QPXTX7m.png (14.16KB)

    > There’s no mention of what file failed.
    > There’s no navigation, or what to do next.
    > Backup was still created with that one file missing.

    The file that was not included is: ~/.gnugp/S.gpg-agent

    $ stat ~/.gnupg/S.gpg-agent
    File: ‘S.gpg-agent’
    Size: 0 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 socket
    Device: 802h/2050d Inode: 789679 Links: 1
    Access: (0775/srwxrwxr-x) Uid: ( 1000/leon-davison) Gid: ( 1000/leon-davison)
    Access: 2017-11-18 20:08:32.901704872 +1300
    Modify: 2017-11-18 20:08:32.085700746 +1300
    Change: 2017-11-18 20:08:32.085700746 +1300
    Birth: –

    I had just been recently creating gpg2 keys as well. So it looks like a gpg-agent socket.

    Thank you.

  58. While testing Flatpak’s, noticed one tiny issue so far…
    ‘M.A.R.S – A ridiculous shooter’ web link needs fixing

    Very impressed with the Software Manager Flatpak implementation, so easy to install and use, and how well they work. Bravo! 🙂

  59. Possible Bug (minor)- gDebi
    Install of Opera browser hung:
    On previous Mint editions, install process includes pop-up window showing choice to update opera with the rest of the system. No pop up on Mint 18.3 and install process stalls.
    the update option was viewable and executable in the the terminal however, so apparently a GUI issue, not a race condition or other software process hang.

  60. The “Update Manager” window is too large for a 10 inch screen so the apply button is hidden. The window will not resize or turn so the user can apply the update preferences. 32 bit ed . Hiding the lower panel doesn’t work either. What is the terminal syntax to apply update preferences?

    1. Thanks, I’ll remember that for next time but I already replaced the system with MX which is better for little netbooks.

    1. You can use snaps if you install snapd [apt install snapd]. Okay, you’ll only be able to install snaps from the command line, but I don’t think Ubuntu’s snaps repository has screenshots anyway.

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