Monthly News – November 2015


Our apologies for posting these news so late. Since the website and forums went down, we’ve been hit by two new server issues. Two of our repository servers lost their hard drives. That’s a total of 3 servers going down in just a few weeks.  This time around we had full backups though and we were able to minimize downtime (no downtime at all on the Mint and LMDE2 repositories, a few hours yesterday on the LMDE 1 repositories). We’re eager to resume work on Linux Mint but at the moment most of our focus is still on server administration, on recovery, on configuration but also on making sure we’re stronger and issues like these have less of an impact on us going forward.

Here is the situation at the moment:

  • The Cinnamon and MATE editions of Linux Mint 17.3 were released and upgrade paths were opened for them.
  • The OEM and nocodecs ISOs were successfully tested and will be announced in the coming days.
  • LMDE 2 “Betsy” started to catch up and received updates for some of the Mint tools as well as MATE and Cinnamon yesterday. This was interrupted by a server issue and we’re hoping to resume work on this tomorrow. Betsy should then receive more updates, including the new MDM, mintdesktop, and overdue updates on Flash and Thunderbird.
  • The Xfce and KDE editions of Linux Mint 17.3 were initially planned for the end of December. We might still see their BETA this month, but their stable releases are very likely to happen in January next year.

Many thanks to all of you, for your donations and for your words of support. It really touched me to see your response when we announced the downtime and even now, as we’re lacking sleep and working around the clock on something which doesn’t produce anything visible (server admin as opposed to Linux Mint itself), we see your feedback on Linux Mint 17.3, on new installations and upgrades, on new features we developed. It’s a huge boost of motivation for us.


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Donations in October:

A total of $9491 were raised thanks to the generous contributions of 429 donors:

$300, Carl V. H.
$280, Folkert V. R.
$200, p k
$150 (2nd donation),
$112 (9th donation), Goran A.
$112 (2nd donation), Konstantinos T.
$112, David A.
$112, Matthias S.
$112, Christian S.
$112, Enzo S.
$100 (2nd donation), Charles D.
$100 (2nd donation), Markus S.
$100, Robert I.
$100, Xiao B. C.
$100, Karl L.
$100, Scott K.
$100, Rene G. aka “wergosum
$100, Ralph S.
$100, Richard M. R.
$100, Ed M. aka “gizmo”
$80, Edouard A.
$60 (2nd donation), Blair S.
$60, James J.
$56 (2nd donation), Manfred R.
$56 (2nd donation), Bartholomeus T.
$56 (2nd donation), Tibor aka “tibbi
$56, Philippe A.
$56, Christian K.
$56, Christophe G.
$56, Cac V.
$56, Richard Bairwell aka “Richy B.
$56, Daniel M.
$56, Richard H.
$56, Rienk R.
$56, Claudio G.
$50 (66th donation), Matthew M.
$50 (4th donation), Ernest M.
$50 (3rd donation), Waqas S.
$50 (2nd donation), Phil H. aka “smef
$50 (2nd donation), Gerald C.
$50 (2nd donation), William R.
$50, David L.
$50, The Coding Studio – Custom Web Development
$50, Paul M.
$50, James M.
$50, Brian K.
$50, Laurence C.
$50, Jim Dunlop
$50, SBA ALbany Ltd
$50, Paul R.
$50, Ben T.
$50, Gerald H.
$50, Henry D.
$50, Hans J.
$50, BillyJim47
$50, Gale C.
$45, Marien L.
$45, Gianni D.
$40 (2nd donation), L.louise W.
$40, Stephen D.
$40, Frank S.
$35 (3rd donation), Kustom Timber aka “Tristan
$35, Roland G.
$34 (3rd donation), Richard C.
$34 (2nd donation), Lars-gunnar S.
$34, Gildas M.
$34, José D. S.
$30 (68th donation), Olli K.
$30 (2nd donation), Julie H. aka “Kjokkenutstyr
$28 (2nd donation), Dirk B.
$28 (2nd donation), Christian P.
$28, Danny B.
$28, Juha H.
$28, Stefan W.
$28, Bartholomeus T.
$28, Pavel Richter aka “@pavel
$28, Jacobus J. A.
$28, Mathieu B.
$28, Stephan A.
$28, Christian H.
$28, Antal R.
$28, Joachim W.
$25 (49th donation), Ronald W.
$25 (10th donation), Peter D.
$25 (3rd donation), Jaan S.
$25 (3rd donation), Curtis M.
$25 (2nd donation), Robert B.
$25 (2nd donation), George P.
$25 (2nd donation), Paul S.
$25, Ralph G.
$25, Jim Wroten
$25, Kathleen R.
$25, Robert B.
$25, Peter P.
$25, Jeff H.
$25, Olaf S.
$25, Michael S.
$25, Rj H.
$25, Daniel W.
$25, Francis H.
$25, Samuel C.
$25, Gary B.
$25, eGloo Inc
$25, Peter G.
$25, Noah S.
$25, Curtis C.
$25, Paul A.
$25, Jeremy M. Thomas
$22 (22nd donation), Mark W.
$22 (4th donation), Anthony M.
$22 (3rd donation), Stephen G.
$22 (3rd donation), Emil N. P.
$22 (2nd donation), Peter B.
$22, Mikeyy
$22, Robert M.
$22, David G.
$22, Dominique M.
$22, A.A.
$22, Cornel V.
$22, Benedikt H.
$22, John C.
$22, Micke S.
$22, Erki E.
$22, Mathijs B.
$22, Richard H.
$22, Michele M.
$22, Verónica R. D.
$22, Ulrich H.
$22, Dennis B.
$22, Real estate Germany
$22, Sascha-martin S.
$22, Ingo H.
$22, Laurent G.
$22, Dirk W.
$22, Jean-marie L.
$22, Michael P.
$22, Patrick H.
$22, Jerry O.
$22, Thomas T.
$22, Georg K.
$20 (8th donation), Curt Vaughan aka “curtvaughan ”
$20 (5th donation), Tom T.
$20 (4th donation), Matsufuji H.
$20 (2nd donation), Joseph M.
$20 (2nd donation), G&A
$20 (2nd donation), James T.
$20 (2nd donation), Anonymous
$20 (2nd donation), Steven A.
$20 (2nd donation), Joseph C.
$20 (2nd donation), Arthur K.
$20, David O.
$20, Yao C.
$20, Roberto M. F.
$20, Gregg R.
$20, Thomas D.
$20, Eugen T.
$20, Roger B.
$20, Tim A.
$20, Thibault G.
$20, Enrique R.
$20, Austin D.
$20, William C.
$20, Donald I.
$20, Portmore Road Times
$20, Steven H.
$20, Wayne A.
$20, Boyd W.
$20, Jobs Hiring aka “Mr. Jobs
$20, Mark P. aka “Juno
$20, Kenneth C.
$20, Alfred L.
$20, Arthur K.
$20, Luke V.
$20, Matt Van aka “Phanto”
$20, John P.
$17 (23rd donation), Raymond E.
$17 (3rd donation), _John
$17 (2nd donation), Peter V.
$17 (2nd donation), Peter R.
$17 (2nd donation), Julian M.
$17, Gerrit J. B.
$17, George T.
$17, Dominique L.
$17, Robert K.
$17, Ulf N.
$17, Marcel U.
$17, Jean-claude M.
$15 (4th donation), David B. (Davey) aka “tekjunkie”
$15 (2nd donation), Bill R.
$15 (2nd donation), Doug B.
$15, David Stephens
$15, Stephen G.
$15, Luboslav B.
$15, Geoffrey O.
$15, Alin I.
$15, Stephen B.
$15, Dan R.
$15, cocasema
$15, Nghia L.
$15, Seaton D.
$14, Dave T.
$13, Dirk S.
$12 (55th donation), Tony C. aka “S. LaRocca”
$12, DDSRank
$12, Ngalu R.
$11.11, William B.
$11 (7th donation), Christian B.
$11 (5th donation), Doriano G. M.
$11 (2nd donation), Esko T.
$11 (2nd donation), Alipio F. F.
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$11, Wolfgang S.
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$11, Michel C.
$11, Robert C.
$11, Andre P.
$11, Dominique D.
$11, François A.
$11, Enrico L.
$11, Vasileios Kriezias aka “VK
$11, Till B.
$11, Ole S.
$11, Olaf M.
$11, Joost H.
$11, Tanguy S.
$11, Marc V. K.
$11, Mark D.
$11, Peter C.
$11, David J.
$11, François B.
$11, Pieter D.
$11, Gintautas F.
$11, Christoffer P.
$11, Arie de Jonge aka “Bolle1961
$11, Andrew S.
$11, Felix S.
$11, Michael F.
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$11, Andreas S.
$11, Niall C.
$11, Hugo A. P.
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$11, Rony F.
$11, Richard J. O. aka “OGGMEISTER
$11, Karsten S.
$11, M D.
$11, Andrej M.
$11, Nicolas G.
$10 (14th donation), Charlie Robinson
$10 (9th donation), Libertad Tecnologica
$10 (7th donation), Michael H. aka “hikiboi1969”
$10 (6th donation), Jacqueem S. aka “Go Live Lively
$10 (5th donation), David B. (Davey) aka “tekjunkie”
$10 (5th donation), Mauzz
$10 (4th donation), Kristian O.
$10 (3rd donation), Chalermpon K.
$10 (3rd donation), Philipp H.
$10 (3rd donation), Paul G.
$10 (3rd donation), Michel C.
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$10 (2nd donation), David T.
$10 (2nd donation), Aleksey Eletsky aka “promise”
$10 (2nd donation), Eric R.
$10 (2nd donation), Matthew M.
$10 (2nd donation), Kustom Timber aka “Tristan
$10 (2nd donation), Paul C.
$10, Nathan A.
$10, Nicholas H.
$10, Thomas R.
$10, Pierre F.
$10, Surjyendu S.
$10, Keith T.
$10, Mecox Waves Inc
$10, Jean-christophe B.
$10, Scott B.
$10, Sven H.
$10, Martin M.
$10, Willie S.
$10, Amauri O.
$10, Robert H.
$10, Choi C.
$10, Keith M.
$10, Rafael M.
$10, Peter W.
$10, Nimai B.
$10, Anthony L.
$10, Bartek R.
$10, Rasul A.
$10, Luke P.
$10, Jacek K.
$10, Barry C.
$10, Onder Nuray aka “ondernuray
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$10, Gregory T.
$10, Winston M.
$10, James S.
$10, Josip K.
$10, 新居 照央
$10, Rüdiger K.
$10, Paul A.
$8 (3rd donation), Glover Electronics
$8, Ziller S.
$8, Cosimo I.
$8, Junksupply
$7.5, Anthony W.
$7, Len F.
$7, Tri N.
$7, James O.
$6 (29th donation), Antonio M. Mariani. aka “zantaz
$6 (9th donation), Kjell O. B. aka “kob”
$6 (6th donation), Knut E. E. aka “Animoy”
$6 (5th donation), Ib O. J.
$6 (3rd donation), Jeldert P.
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$6 (2nd donation), Nick G.
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$6, Renaud C.
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$6, Gleb from Paderborn
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$6, Jiří Š.
$6, Serge Z.
$6, Georgios F.
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$6, Gianfranco C.
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$6, Constantin H.
$6, Jan de W aka “Gnoe”
$5.7, Farhad N.
$5 (19th donation), Carlos W.
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$5 (12th donation), Kouji K.
$5 (11th donation), Kouji K.
$5 (8th donation), Nicolás Costa de la Colina aka “NCosta”
$5 (5th donation), Jacqueem S. aka “Go Live Lively
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$5, Miroslav Asenov aka “masenov
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$3, IVIT
$3, Petar R.
$3, Jan L.
$3, Patrick P.
$3, Robin L.
$36.2 from 28 smaller donations

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  1. Many thanks for doing what you do, it is much appreciated.
    I’m desperately waiting for a Linux Mint with a KDE 5 Plasma 5 desktop. Will Linux Mint 17.3 ship with Plasma 5?
    I know that the motto is “never change a running system” and “don’t fix it if it ain’t broken”, but I must say that Plasma 5 really brings a load of features with it I would love to see on Mint. Especially the fusion of the file and program search in the dashboard is a huge improvement. It’s the first Linux desktop I’ve seen so far which comes close to Mac OS X (>=10.4) due to Spotlight or even Windows (>=8.1) with its search – a feature I’ve always missed a lot when using Linux.
    It’s the only thing I wish for from you guys, the rest of Mint is already nearly perfect.
    Many thanks again and have a nice winter time,
    – someone who switched to Linux thanks to your superb dists.

  2. TO: MintKDEtoKubuntuAndBack
    FYI and FWIW I am currently testing what will become Tanglu 4 which is debian-based and comes with Plasma 5 and LibreOffice5 among others. Click this link to download:

    Like you, I am a LinuxMint fan and user and I have been running ‘Betsy-MATE-64bits on my workstation ever since its release 9 months ago and I have never looked back. I still keep though a HP Core2 Duo laptop which serves as a testing box and a great tool to teach oneself Linux and discover Debian.

  3. Clem and the Mint team, you all are awesome, and Mint is the best distro bar none. ( IMO ) Wow, with all the hardware trouble that came all at once, and still getting Mint 17.3 out the door, well you all are amazing. It it much appreciated all the hard work, you and the team do. With Sincere Thanks, Crewp

  4. Incredible. Simply Incredible. THIS is the year of Linux on Desktop. Thanks Mint team!

    Two thoughts: You guys need sysadmin help? I’d like to help you virtualize and cluster your server setup(s) so this kind of thing CAN’T happen again. This is what I do for a living, using mostly Debian / ProxMox. Would love to help.

    Other thought: Boot animation?

  5. I am extremely grateful for you (Clem), The Linux Mint Team, and everyone else who contributed in some way to make 17.3 as great as how I’m able to enjoy it right now… as I’m typing this reply! My current financial situation doesn’t allow for me to contribute as much as I would want to… but I’ll have you know that Linux Mint is DEFINITELY saving me money in very practical ways! In time, I’ll be sure to donate!

  6. What is the suggested path to getting compiz working properly in lmde2? I’m not seeing any option to switch to it in the preferences. Though I have compositing enabled….

  7. Thank you Mint!
    For all those asking for KDE Plasma 5 I hope Mint never goes there. It’s a MS like bloatware, slow and not very intuitive, imo…
    Why would you want something like that? Here is an idea, switch to Windows 10! 😀

  8. Since Plasma 5 is missing a fundamental characteristic: pager settings / virtual desktops / desktops / DIFFERENT widgets for each desktop!

  9. First of all: I didn’t mean the dashboard, nor the launcher, the thing I was talking about was the “kickoff menu”, at least that’s what it’s called in the Mint KDE manual.

    @karibou: Thanks for letting me know about that distro, I didn’t know it yet. 🙂 However, I want to stay on an Ubuntu based distro for now – there are more simple How-Tos to be found for Ubuntu (and its derivates) than for Debian and as a Linux workstation beginner I really rely on such help.
    @jake: KDE 5 Plasma 5 is faster on my machine than KDE 4 due to the improved search functionalities. Who needs higher framerates when e.g. moving windows when the content is the thing that matters? If I cannot find the file I want to work on in the blink of an eye, the higher frame rates I get from KDE 4 are worth nothing. I don’t care about Windows 10 or the “bloatware” meme, nor do I get why you compare us to MS Software. From the looks it’s finally not looking anymore like MS Software, because KDE 4’s looks are a lot like Vista or baby Mac OS X 10.0 – 10.2 – more like Vista though. KDE 5 looks like the first adult KDE release to me. All older releases looked like copies that tried to fit in, KDE 5 finally has an own goal an design and in my opinion these guys are doing a great job on getting to that goal.
    Also I feel like Plasma 5 is a lot more organized than Plasma 4.
    Here’s my idea: Mint goes to KDE 5 Plasma 5 and you stay with Mint KDE 4 17.2 which will still be supported until 2019 😀 Until then, you will most likely have hardware that can handle KDE 5.
    @NilLin: I don’t know what pager settings are, as I’ve never had a pager 😉 Virtual desktops are still there and I can have different widgets for each activity, so no real problem for me here. The widgets stay on each desktop though.

    I’m still voting for KDE 5 Plasma 5 on Mint!

    PS: Thanks for Mint and keep up the great work.

  10. You were so right to focus on Cinnamon. Kde release can take its sweet time to get here. Too plasticy and tries to do too much.

  11. I’m having repeated crashes in LMDE 2 when highlighting an mp3, the window locks up and plays the mp3 in the background, but to get a responsive file manager, I’m having to force quit the window manager. Running all the latest updates, and audacious playing another mp3 in the background seems to be when it occurs most.

  12. I openly admit that I lean toward the paranoid side and am not much of a believer in coincidence. Three servers with basically the same problem happening in basically the same time period? It also happens that time period is in alignment with a release period. I’d have a difficult time trying to keep myself from thinking about the possibility of something covert going on if that was transpiring on my site.

  13. For the KDE haters out there… I hated KDE 4 too for the exact same reasons but KDE 5 is a whole different animal that you might want to try before you knock…

    That being said since 17.3 is LTS I bet that we won’t see KDE 5 until 18.

  14. I just disabled mp3 preview for my issue. Happy HollyDaze! Still like to know what the best way is to compiz in LMDE Betsy, if that’s an option….

  15. Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain’t all sunshine and rainbows. It’s a very mean and nasty place, and I don’t care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain’t about how hard you hit. It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward. That’s how winning is done! Now, if you know what you’re worth, then go out and get what you’re worth. But you gotta be willing to take the hits, and not pointing fingers saying you ain’t where you wanna be because of him, or her, or anybody. Cowards do that and that ain’t you. You’re better than that!
    [Rocky Balboa!!]

  16. I have got problems I can not get into my bank for my banking info I have been days trying to get help on this matter the bank says it is not their server so it has to be on my computer. can you help me?

    Edit by Clem: If your Online Bank website requires Windows (some do sadly), either switch to Windows or switch to another bank. Alternatively you can run Windows within a virtual computer (with Virtualbox for instance), or try to run a Windows version of Firefox (assuming they support it) via Wine. If the issue is with Java, you can also try to replace OpenJDK with Oracle JDK.

  17. I love this distro, and love the work you’re doing, but of course as part of the community, I wanna chip in input when I feel it’s necessary.

    The file context menu in Rosa has been shortened from Rafaela, and while in Rafaela it was easy to activate it again from the preferences, that doesn’t seem to be the case in Rosa.

    Please bring that back, the extended file context was very useful, most notably for the make link button for me. One shouldn’t need to create soft links from a terminal to make shortcuts to files.

    Edit by Clem: At the top-right of the context menu, there’s a little + icon you can click to expand the context menu.

  18. > Two of our repository servers lost their hard drives.
    > That’s a total of 3 servers going down in just a few weeks.

    In this day and age there is really no reason for a hard drive failure or two to take down a server. Open source solutions for a reliable storage system are readily available.

    Having built a ZFS solution myself that has been in production use for nearly a decade (with a few disk failures now and again) without loosing a single bit of data, I would highly recommend building a storage solution around ZFS and FreeNAS:

    One can configure FreeNAS to boot from 2 x mirrored USB flash drives and then all the internal disks (large SATA drives) of the server are available to store data.

    Figuring out how to configure ZFS to balance performance vs reliability can be tricky since there are so many options, but the following article puts it all into perspective:

    This is a great opportunity for the Linux Mint project to adopt a new storage solution, if you have not already done so.

    I’m reminded of a quote that is attributed to Albert Einstein.

    “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

    As in, “let’s just replace those failed disks and rebuild the servers and get it all up and running again … those disks won’t fail again ….. “. Right 🙂

    Enjoying Linux Mint tremendously as it “just works” on my laptop, but would not want to see a preventable crisis like the recent disk failures causing panic again in the future.

  19. I certainly wouldn’t put it past Apple or Microsoft to be attacking Mint directly at this point. I’m moving every user who isn’t addicted to MS Office or iTunes as quickly as I can! The forums are FULL of recommendations for people to switch to mint to avoid Windows. I don’t think the paid shills on sites like that can keep up with the sheer volume of positive recommendations!

  20. For commercial support reasons to my small group of “civilians” (non-nerds) I’ve had to follow Windows for years, although since Linus first started all this, I’ve regularly tried to convert to Linux through many, many distros.
    The only two that ever came close were Mint and Uberstudent. The reason being – still to this day:
    A “Civilian”-oriented installation AND ex-Windoze familiarity.

    Now, I’m back again, not because of anything so convincing by the Linux world’s promo efforts,but the now devastating damage done by Windows10 and its susceptibility to the fantastic hardly ever mentioned (for some reason???)avalanche of Ransomware and similar inhuman programs.
    Guys, spread THIS this word – stop trying to convince Civilians that Linux is better ( it simply isn’t – from a Civilian’s point of view)and focus on the ever-increasing ease of attacks and absolute lack of defence and incredible damage done by the Script-Kiddies Ransomware epidemic now and soon in their MILLIONS.

    Me personally?? I’m coming back to MINT as of now – if I can figure out how to get it on my W10 machines and NEVER go out on the Net outside it again!

  21. Having install problems. Will detail errors in later message.
    Dell XPS-15 (2013, L521-x). Multi-booting onto either onboard SSD & HDD.

    No other Ubuntu-based operating system has trouble installing, only Mint (all versions, either safe drivers or not, options).

  22. I upgraded my laptop and desktop last weekend from 17.2 to 17.3. The laptop upgraded completely, including an unrequired reboot, in 4 minutes flat. My desktop upgraded including a reboot in 6 minutes flat. The desktop took longer due to a recompile of my ZFS modules. No issues at all. Flawless. The next day I donated.

  23. I would like to thank everyone involved with Linux Mint.
    In my 3rd year of using various dual boot systems successfully.
    Thanks for helping a non-geek analog dude survive in the digital age.

    Happy Holidays,

  24. I beg y’all to get some sleep before you go psychotic. <3 ya's, hope to see you on the other side of the 2016 bound.

  25. As a “civilian” it has been an experience to operate in The Mint. When first booted, the phrase “Free at Last” came to mind. Marvelous OS. With no background in computer geekism though it has been difficult. (After two weeks in 17.2 a successful upgrade to 17.3 was made. I then selected several upgrades from the list that looked necessary and the screen turned black for 2 weeks until the RECOVERY menu was discovered and in which I am currently operating.) Is there anyone in the Phoenix,AZ area who home schools newbies? I’d really like to have a stable Mint installation and I promise never to attempt an upgrade again!

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