Linux Mint 19.3 “Tricia” Cinnamon – BETA Release

This is the BETA release for Linux Mint 19.3 “Tricia” Cinnamon Edition.

Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia Cinnamon Edition

 Linux Mint 19.3 is a long term support release which will be supported until 2023. It comes with updated software and brings refinements and many new features to make your desktop even more comfortable to use.

New features:

This new version of Linux Mint contains many improvements.

For an overview of the new features please visit:

What’s new in Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon“.

Important info:

The release notes provide important information about known issues, as well as explanations, workarounds and solutions.

To read the release notes, please visit:

Release Notes for Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon

System requirements:

  • 1GB RAM (2GB recommended for a comfortable usage).
  • 15GB of disk space (20GB recommended).
  • 1024×768 resolution (on lower resolutions, press ALT to drag windows with the mouse if they don’t fit in the screen).

Notes:

  • The 64-bit ISO can boot with BIOS or UEFI.
  • The 32-bit ISO can only boot with BIOS.
  • The 64-bit ISO is recommended for all modern computers (Almost all computers sold since 2007 are equipped with 64-bit processors).

Upgrade instructions:

  • This BETA release might contain critical bugs, please only use it for testing purposes and to help the Linux Mint team fix issues prior to the stable release.
  • It will be possible to upgrade from this BETA to the stable release.
  • It will also be possible to upgrade from Linux Mint 19, 19.1 and 19.2.
  • Upgrade instructions will be published after the stable release of Linux Mint 19.3.

Bug reports:

  • Bugs in this release should be reported on Github at https://github.com/linuxmint/mint19.3-beta.
  • Create one issue per bug.
  • As described in the Linux Mint Troubleshooting Guide, do not report or create issues for observations.
  • Be as accurate as possible and include any information that might help developers reproduce the issue or understand the cause of the issue:
    • Bugs we can reproduce, or which cause we understand are usually fixed very easily.
    • It is important to mention whether a bug happens “always”, or “sometimes”, and what triggers it.
    • If a bug happens but didn’t happen before, or doesn’t happen in another distribution, or doesn’t happen in a different environment, please mention it and try to pinpoint the differences at play.
    • If we can’t reproduce a particular bug and we don’t understand its cause, it’s unlikely we’ll be able to fix it.
  • The BETA phase is literally a bug squashing rush, where the team is extremely busy and developers try to fix as many bugs as fast as possible.
  • There usually are a huge number of reports and very little time to answer everyone or explain why a particular report is not considered a bug, or won’t get fixed. Don’t let this frustrate you, whether it’s acknowledged or not, we appreciate everyone’s help.
  • Please visit https://trello.com/c/dXNvbKzd/26-193-beta-bugs and https://github.com/linuxmint/mint19.3-beta to follow the progress of the development team between the BETA and the stable release.

Download links:

Here are the download links for the 64-bit ISO:

A 32-bit ISO image is also available at https://www.linuxmint.com/download_all.php.

Integrity and authenticity checks:

Once you have downloaded an image, please verify its integrity and authenticity.

Anyone can produce fake ISO images, it is your responsibility to check you are downloading the official ones.

Enjoy!

We look forward to receiving your feedback. Many thanks in advance for testing the BETA!

134 comments

  1. Hi, Clem and team,

    I have a little request, if it’s possible: could you add an option in the boot menu to directly install Linux Mint? You know, like being able to install it without having to boot it from the live medium, like Ubuntu does? Thanks in advance. Great work. Linux Mint just gets better with every release. Thanks in advance.

    1. Hi Leon,

      You mean to start Ubiquity on its own without a DE? You can do that in Mint too by appending “only-ubiquity” to the boot arguments. Out of curiosity, why do you want to do this? Is it to reduce RAM usage during the installation?

    2. Thanks for the tip, Clem, but I meant something more oriented to standard users, like without having to modify the boot arguments. I request this because many times I only want to install Mint without having to boot the entire OS first just to click on the “Install Linux Mint” icon. I find it wasteful in terms of time and computer resources, but perhaps it’s just me who thinks like this. Just think about the precious seconds of user time wasted and the wasted CPU and RAM this causes just for clicking an icon. Ubuntu does this by providing an option on the boot menu that directly invokes the installer once you select it. I don’t know, I think it would be a nice and elegant option to install Mint.

    3. I would also like to have this feature.
      It’s not something major or anything, it’s just for the convenience of not having to boot into the live DE…

    4. I hate to refuse things like that, especially when they’re easy to implement. Diluting menu choices isn’t great but it’s not a big deal either… this is a bit of a rabbit hole though and that’s why it was removed. In an installer-only session, if the resolution is wrong you can’t change it (you can often see this issue in virtual machines, and you then rely on the settings daemon and/or display settings to fix it). If the settings daemon aren’t running (you can see this issue in Xfce OEM mode) it looks ugly, and last but not least, this creates three additional lengthy tests every time we enter QA. I’d prefer to leave this out.

  2. Thanks.
    Is it possible, that videos (like .mp4, mkv, etc.) and Youtube (and other websites videos) use actually GPU like they should?
    The reason is, that videos should be decoded by GPU these days, especially if you’re going for 4K and 8K videos, but they don’t. Instead they max out the CPU and then tearing starts to show up.

    On Windows it uses GPU (and very little CPU), on Linux for some reason it uses CPU (and very little GPU), which makes it useless in terms of watching 4K and 8K videos.

    In my test, Windows runs 8K 60FPS video buttery smooth, on Linux Mint it’s unwatchable.

    1. Hi,

      Yes, that’s one of the reason we moved away from Xplayer. Because of its ClutterGST backend, it could only play movies using the CPU.

    2. Thanks Clem for quick reply.
      However, I tested movies both in MPV/VLC as well Youtube in web browser with such a poor results using mainly CPU.

      Can you please confirm, that starting from Mint 19.3 all above (Celluloid and Web Browsers) are using mainly GPU instead of CPU?

    3. MPV prefers quality over less cpu usage and cause most graphicscards decoders are blackboxes mpv in standard configuration do not use them. There are many bugreports on this topic. If you want to use the decoder of your gpu you have to tell mpv. mpv uses vo_gpu over vaapi or vdpaui.

    4. Lack of GPU accelerated video in Linux browsers is down to the developers of the browsers. Neither Mozilla not the Chromium developers have seen fit to enable it on Linux, I guess due to concerns over compatibility given the wide range and quality of graphics drivers in Linux.

      There is a Chromium build available via PPA that has been patched to enable GPU accelerated video – this article pretty much covers how to install it – https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/08/how-to-enable-hardware-accelerated.html

    5. Thanks SB and Steve M,

      I have already tried both this solutions in the past:
      1) running mpv with parameters like vaapi and vdpau did nothing, 8K video from youtube can max out CPU and uses only fraction of GPU, for example: “mpv –hwdec=vaapi https://youtu.be/n-RjGEWW3nk
      I tried many different variations, vaapi, vdpau, –vo=vdpau or –vo=opengl, it changes nothing.
      I double checked it a moment ago to see if something changed, but sadly GPU is still not being used.
      2) Many months ago I tried that (chromium dev), and it seems to work only when a plugin (h264ify) is used for changing Youtube videos to .mp4 format. But it has limitations like no 4k and 8k 60fps supported.
      I just tested it again today with the same result – no GPU being used and CPU being maxed out.

      That’s why I was happily surprised, when Clem mentioned that videos will use GPU, but for now, I cannot see it working properly in Linux. Videos use mainly CPU instead of GPU.

    1. Ah thanks 🙂

      I’ll update the roadmap, I’m not sure we’ll use Trello for this during the BETA (I know we started QA on it..).

      Update: We are indeed using Trello this time around 🙂

  3. I wouldn’t mind a new app to handle grub2 configuration, or an update to Grub Customizer. Having several Linux installations on my main box, and a mix of Windows and Linux Mint versions on my laptop, such a tool would prove handy to decide what should be booted by default, what should be ignored, etc., and to fix the configuration if something goes wrong (it may well happen).

  4. Hi Clem,
    I do get weird login behavior, I have connected a beamer via HDMI, and two monitors via DisplayPorts (my NVidia has 2x HDMI and 2x DP).
    When boot my computer, I can see everything and grub on properly set one or two monitors (depending on what I set in Mint).
    However, I never see a login screen, as for this short period of time, it switches to my beamer for no reason. So I have to login blindly or use the auto-login, which I prefer not to. Power on the beamer only to login is also very unpractical.
    Is there anything that can be done about that, i.e. to see everything on a monitor/s that is set in Mint?

    1. Try changing the monitor used in settings (in the menu, Login Window) – it lets you prefer a specific monitor for the login manager.

    2. Thanks Michael Webster for your reply,

      I already checked that, and tried “Auto” option as well as choosing a specific monitor (set default at the moment for the last few months).
      Unfortunately, it doesn’t work, as for some reason during login time, monitor/beamer using HDMI is being used as default. After I login (via black screen as I cannot see anything) everything is back to normal.

      Not sure why, I tried to search google for an answer and the most helpful information was that “Using multiple ports in Linux is messed up”. But this doesn’t solve the problem.
      I may add that I have nVidia Card – 1060 3GB, 2x HDMI, 2x DP

    3. I found that this may have something to do with the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
      It mentions only my beamer (Benq) in the “Monitor” section, but not my main 2 monitors connected to DisplayPort:
      Section “Monitor”
      # HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid
      Identifier “Monitor0”
      VendorName “Unknown”
      ModelName “BenQ W1000+”
      HorizSync 31.0 – 91.0
      VertRefresh 48.0 – 86.0
      Option “DPMS”
      EndSection

      Maybe that’s why LightDM see only beamer and uses it for login?

  5. How is this version on supporting and running 3rd party software or using wine to run windows based apps?? The previous version 19.1 or 19.2 wouldn’t work with 3rd party software.

  6. Bonsoir Clem,

    Je vais m’exprimer en français, étant donné que vous le comprenez. Il sera bien plus aisé pour moi de vous décrire mon test de la LM 19.3 Beta Cinnamon x64 bits sur mon Dell XPS 9570.

    Première chose, après avoir réalisé le download de l’image ISO, je n’ai trouvé nulle part la « somme sha256 officielle » correspondant à cette ISO via l’URL ci-dessous ?

    https://linuxmint.com/verify.php

    La mienne est de 7b53820340d62f43884d2fb9b1c376877ef0a0013d3cf8f0f0b25ea1f65ac9b3 je présume qu’elle est correcte…

    Je viens de booter sur ma clef usb et là dès la première seconde Grub avec son nouveau design m’a tapé à l’oeil, il est vraiment trop classe, c’est top 🙂 Durant le boot j’ai des messages ACPI error, rien de grave à prioris ça passe quand même, l’image live se monte sans soucis, un ‘uname -r’ m’apprend que nous sommes en kernel 5.0.0.32 ce qui me ravis. J’installe cet OS sur une carte SD, ce n’est pas ce qu’il y a de mieux comme support d’install, mais pour faire des tests cela suffira amplement.

    L’UEFI est désactivé sur cette machine, mais elle possède une partition UEFI de boot de 100 Mb en FAT32. Si je choisi l’option UEFI, l’installation se passe à merveille, mais au démarrage il m’affiche en haut à gauche de l’écran ‘GRUB _’ j’attends encore et encore… ça n’a pas l’air de vouloir se faire. Dans le bios je ne trouve pas de trace de cette nouvelle install, j’ai juste Mint/Windows qui y sont référencés.

    Deuxième tentative install en mode standard, cette fois-ci, c’est passé, ça a booté => install du driver nvidia v. 435.21 => install des mises à jour => reboot => Tout va bien.

    Petite remarque de mon point de vue d’ingénieur systèmes, de mon avis, il serait souhaitable au niveau sécurité que le pare-feu soit non seulement installé, mais en plus de cela activé par défaut, cela tout comme les mises-à-jour automatiques du système.

    J’ai vu que le kernel 5.3 est disponible ce qui va ravir les détenteur de CPU AMD série 3900 à ce que j’ai lu en ont besoin. Comme d’habitude depuis un certain temps je constate que le compte root est désactivé par défaut, je pense que ça vient de l’image live de base que vous utilisez pour réaliser Mint un petit script maison ne pourrait-il pas résoudre ceci à l’install genre une option faculattive ??

    Si je branche mon casque stéréo à prise jack 3.5 mm à 3 pins TRS (impédance de 55 Ohms), j’entends de légers grésillements quand je bouge la souris juste avant le login puis quelques secondes après celui-ci ce qui est franchement désagréable. Dès que l’on ouvre un utilitaire système gérant le son ou qu’on lance la lecture le musique par exemple alors le problème disparaît puis il revient quand la lecture musicale est terminée ou que l’utilitaire système gérant le son est fermé…

    Si je branche un autre casque jack 3.5 mm 4 pins TRRS (impédance de 48 Ohms) avec micro intégré, j’ai toujours le même grésillement mais moins prononcé. La fonction micro ne fonctionne pas.

    Voilà, si non tout à l’air de fonctionner niquel, je referai un test sur ma station une autre fois…

    Pour changer un peu de sujet, j’ai vu que la dernière version de Ubuntu intègre les images SNAP, histoire de ne plus devoir gérer x versions de chaque paquets pour chacune des variantes de leur distribution je présume. Du coup ils s’éloignent de Debian en créant leur propre installateur installateur de paquets/softs-images multiplate-formes fait maison. Après ce qui devient compliqué à gérer c’est la multitude de dépendances de chaque image SNAP qui doit être maintenue à jour et sécurisée pour chacune d’entre elles dans chaque paquet-image SNAP… J’ai lu que des développeurs de Mint se plaignaient de cette nouvelle façon de faire. Il est vrai que ça semble consommer + 10 % de ressources CPU et plus de RAM aussi, ce qui n’est pas négligeable !! Après Spectre, Meltdown et autres failles de sécurité qui nous ont fait perdre en ressources CPU, voici maintenant SNAP à ce que j’ai cru comprendre… C’est une raison de plus pour faire battre plus fort dans tous les coeurs l’alternative LMDE dont la version 4 va je l’espère bientôt sortir elle aussi. Avec toutes les avancées de Mint 19.3 intégrées dans une LMDE 4 ça promet d’être super 🙂 J’ai testé dernièrement la MX 19 il y a certainement quelques concept / idées à méditer.

    Bien à vous.

    1. Ca me fait vraiment trop bizarre d’avoir rythme box comme player musical par défaut !! Celluloid quand à lui à l’air très cool. Pour remplacer VLC que vous avez disqualifié, pour la musique je conseillerai plutôt le lecteur de Debian par défaut.

    2. Activer le pare-feu par défaut risque de bloquer des applications (Apache, P2P…). Je pense qu’il vaut mieux ne pas l’activer par défaut et proposer à l’installation de l’activer ou bien de l’activer par défaut seulement s’il y a un mécanisme qui permet d’ouvrir facilement les ports quand on démarre une application qui en a besoin, comme avec Windows.

    3. Bonjour Philippe et merci pour ce test.

      Il y’a des regressions au niveau du son avec le noyau 5.0, et en l’occurence sur Intel. Personellement j’inhibe la mise en veille (“options snd_hda_intel power_save=0” dans /etc/modprobe.d/snd_hda_intel.conf ).

      Les somme de hachages pour les BETA sont dans BETA. Il n’y pas encore de section 19.3 dans verify.php.

      Le compte root c’est une longue histoire.. depuis 2006 on lui donne un mot de passe, et tres recemment on a decide de ne plus le faire. Pourquoi? Parce qu’il y’a du pour mais aussi du contre.. et que comme c’est le cas, on a decide de s’aligner sur Ubuntu (qui ne le fait pas) et dans cette toute nouvelle version d’attirer votre attention sur ce probleme et d’expliciter les pours et les contres (c’est fait via mintreport ca).

      Les mises a jours automatiques, c’est un clic dans les preferences du gestionnaire de mise a jour, ca doit etre facile mais c’est a l’utilisateur de decider cela, c’est normal.. toucher au systeme et telecharger dans votre dos sans meme vous le demander c’est pas possible. Pareil pour les snapshots timeshift.. on vous les recommande, mais c’est a vous que la decision revient. Pour le pare-feu non seulement c’est pareil, mais en plus de ca, tout le monde n’en a pas besoin. Donc la, notre role c’est que ce soit facile et tres visible (et c’est le cas je pense, ecran d’accueil -> premiers pas).

    4. Bonsoir Clem et merci pour ta réponse. J’ai relevé en faisant encore quelques tests des instabilités avec ma carte réseau (Intel Wireless-AC 9260) et le kernel 5.3. J’ai des pertes de réseau, puis ça reconnecte, etc… Ca ne s produit qu’avec la version 19.3, ça fonctionnait au poil en version 19.2, du coup je me satisfait du kernel 5.0 pour l’instant. Bon week-end, bien a toi et aux tiens.

  7. Clem, appreciate the hard work you and the LM Team have done.
    19.3 is looking to be shaping up very nicely.
    I would like to explicitly point out that all of the various speed-ups are among the top items I like to see you and the Team focusing on. Of course the HiDPI is is also up there, however it would be great to see LM finally slow down on all the eye-candy stuff and do more profiling and finding/fixing bottlenecks.
    Granted, this is sort of the opposite of what Apple and MS have been doing. But, if LM would think out of the box again, and keep focus on what is working vs what isn’t or isn’t as good as it should be vs adding more to the image, I think LM could start to set the Standard again for Linux Distos.
    Just my $0.02 worth of course.

    1. LinuxMint has already made huge progress with Cinnamon regarding speed during the 19.x release cicle.
      I would honestly be very surprise if there was any signifficant extra speed improvements to had…
      Maybe with their effort to make Cinnamon multithreaded, but time will tell…

    2. Thanks Fred,

      We make improvements everywhere we can. Sometimes it’s hard to troubleshoot performance, it’s not always up to us (I’m thinking of gvfs here..), it depends on hardware (GPU drivers in Cinnamon for instance), but we always keep an eye on it and try to make things faster. We do also get results… nemo and muffin are way faster than they used to be.

      Nomadewolf mentioned the single-threaded nature of cinnamon.. that’s a huge problem for us, and it’s not something we have a solution for. We’re just after developing xapp-status-icon though, and that gives us the possibility to turn some JS applet into out-of-process applets. I’m not saying we should do that, maybe it’s a bad idea.. what I’m trying to illustrate here is that we’re very much aware of bottlenecks, and the reason we don’t fix them isn’t because we’re fixing HiDPI or artwork issues, it’s because they’re tough problems we just don’t have solutions for yet.

  8. Je viens de refaire une install sur disque dur cette fois-ci en UEFI et c’est passé comme une lettre à la poste UEFI activé dans le bios secure-boot désactivé (comme avant).

    1. Le rapport système est très cool lui aussi, il redemande sans cesse de définir un mot de passe pour root même si on l’as déjà fait.

  9. Am new to Linux Mint, only been working with Linux for about a year, but I like it much better than Winnie the poo. Your updates have been very good and I am starting to learn a little about Mint. Keep up the good work.

    1. I think you can. I asked earlier if an upgrade of 19.2 will be safe if you’re already running the HWE stack and the answer was yes, I’m running kernel-5.3.0 myself.

  10. When entering panel edit mode all the notification area logos show up as ‘super sized’ but they do not return to normal size on edit mode exit. Tried restart cinnamon and reboot but the logos remain super sized.

  11. Hi Clem!

    After fiddling aroud with the BETA for a bit, here’s my 2 cents:…
    [Whishlist]
    -Default Icons: let us have the option have the original Firefox icon, please. I like it much better. The same for every app.
    -Default Wallpaper: consider changing the default wallpaper for something less ‘minty’ and more like other OSes. This is a good way to attract new users. Many probably disregard trying Mint over the default wallpaper alone…
    -Cinnamenu by default (low priority since i can easily change that)
    -Mint-Y Dark Window Borders (low priority since i can easily change that)
    -Manjaro Mouse Pointer: aspect wise, i think it’s better and fitts Cinnamon very well
    -System Monitor> Resources> Show disk usage (Like Windows 10. Also by process, in percentage)

    [Bug/By design?]
    Theme Window Border (Mint-Y Dark) not applied to
    Celluloid
    Disk Usage Analyzer
    Others
    [Like]
    System Settings> Windows> Buttons Layout Mac Style: Cool/saves time!!!

    Congrats on another great release!

    1. Regarding your theme issue: Celluloid and others use something called headerbars which unlike traditional window titlebars aren’t themed by the window borders theme but by the controls theme. Set the controls theme to Mint-Y-Dark and that makes the headerbars of Celluloid and others use that theme.

    2. Thanks for the reply!
      But i don’t really want Mint-Y Dark on the controls on every other window.
      Maybe this could only be activated when there’s no title bar detected.
      Or even better, the devs should fix their apps, because it breaks the whole OS experience…

  12. Hi Clem, there’s a possibility to have screensaver again like Mint 18 ? thank’s for the hard work on a my favourite distro

    1. Thanks Salvatore,

      No I’m sorry, they won’t be coming back. They relied on techniques which are dying, which were getting more and more buggy, and for an application this important we just didn’t want to support them anymore.

  13. I haven’t downloaded and tested any Beta version but it’s mentioned on main component on the Cinnamon edition that it has Linux Kernel 5.0? While both Mate and XFCE only have Linux kernel 4.15.

    Main Components:
    Linux Mint 19.3 features Cinnamon 4.4, a Linux kernel 5.0 and an Ubuntu 18.04 package base.

    1. My bad. The graphical links are still pointed to Mint 19.2 for Mate and XFCE. That’s why I’m seeing kernel 4.15.

  14. Hi,
    I have an enhancement request, would it be possible to add a transparency slider to the configurable panel zone. I realize it’s too late for 19.3 but could you consider it for 20

  15. Hi all
    Great upgrade beta as usual.
    Have checked etc/cron.weekly etc. but cannot find any TRIM set up.
    I understand TRIM is set up automatically on install in Ubuntu but this appears not to be the case with LimuxMint.
    Also not setup in 19, 19.1 or 19.2.
    Have been using manual trim (sudo fstrim -v /) but not sure if this is correct as cannot find clear instructions for LinuxMint.
    Instructions on how to set up a weekly trim would be appreciated.
    Thanks for your help.

    1. Yes, i cannot see it there either so you are not alone. I have not been doing the manual trims though, just hoping it was happening automatically somewhere else

    2. I have been digging round on google, using the command

      journalctl | grep fstrim

      I can see weekly trims have been taking place

    3. Trim is not run via cron on 19.x – it’s set up out of the box as a systemd timer service.

      Check the output of

      systemctl status fstrim.timer

    4. Thank you Nigel and Steve.
      systemctl status fstrim.timer shows TRIM is working but not clear if it is working on all SSDs. My operating systems SSD is in my PC and my data SSD is an external USB3 drive.
      How can I check to confirm TRIM is setup to work on all connected SSD drives?
      Thanks again for your help.

    5. Sorry SB I did not see you before.
      As Steve said “Trim is not run via cron on 19.x ” so maybe worth checking under etc/cron.weekly and/or upgrade to 19.3.

    6. Hi Robert

      Running journalctl | grep fstrim on my machine shows it is trimming both my Linux Mint NVMe SSD and also my (legacy) windows 7 SATA SSD (different physical disc).

    7. Hi Nigel.
      Running journalctl | grep fstrim on my machine shows it is running TRIM on my PC but only shows one amount trimmed on each run i.e no breakdown between my two SSDs.
      I am sure you are correct but is there a way to show/confirm TRIM is applied to all attached SSDs?
      Appreciate your help.

    8. Hi Robert

      Running that command shows up my different drives. Sample below

      Nov 04 10:35:13 Trixie fstrim[28185]: /: 14.1 GiB (15092400128 bytes) trimmed
      Nov 11 09:29:54 Trixie fstrim[13951]: /mnt/948858FF8858E172: 167.3 GiB (179662139392 bytes) trimmed

      As you can see the top line is the root partition on my NVMe drive, the second line is the windows partition on my Windows 7 SSD. It used to show /TRIM my home partition too until I moved that onto a spinning drive

    9. Hi Nigel
      Running journalctl | grep fstrim on my PC shows
      Dec 10 11:23:01 win7pc fstrim[870]: /: 29.9 GiB (32129015808 bytes) trimmed
      Dec 17 10:56:23 win7pc fstrim[888]: /: 29.6 GiB (31781392384 bytes) trimmed
      Dec 24 11:23:07 win7pc fstrim[904]: /: 28.6 GiB (30713446400 bytes) trimmed
      Dec 31 09:06:55 win7pc fstrim[905]: /: 28.6 GiB (30653849600 bytes) trimmed
      Jan 07 10:22:35 win7pc fstrim[896]: /: 28.5 GiB (30619217920 bytes) trimmed
      Jan 14 11:00:17 win7pc fstrim[829]: /: 28.1 GiB (30218133504 bytes) trimmed
      Jan 21 12:54:25 win7pc fstrim[831]: /: 28.1 GiB (30131380224 bytes) trimmed
      Jan 28 10:08:04 win7pc fstrim[832]: /: 27.1 GiB (29089374208 bytes) trimmed
      Feb 04 11:34:34 win7pc fstrim[833]: /: 26.6 GiB (28497125376 bytes) trimmed
      Feb 11 12:10:21 win7pc fstrim[832]: /: 27.6 GiB (29601361920 bytes) trimmed
      Feb 18 10:54:36 win7pc fstrim[836]: /: 27.2 GiB (29208838144 bytes) trimmed
      Feb 25 11:28:05 win7pc fstrim[831]: /: 27.2 GiB (29177982976 bytes) trimmed
      etc.
      What do you read is happening from the above?
      Do I need to change something?

    10. Hi Nigel
      Comparing your output with mine, it appears my external SSD is not auto mounted and therefore not trimed.
      My external SSD is mounted when I first boot but ‘auto sleeps’ when not used for a certain time. Any suggestions?
      Thanks.

  16. Installed Tricia in a VM over LM19.2. Tricia looks nice!

    I haven’t tested much yet, because I can’t get access to a shared folder on the gost-OS (LM 18.3). This is normally easily solved by installing the guest-additions and adding the group vboxsf to your profile. I will look for a more recent version of the virtual-additions, maybe this will help.

    Logging off gives the same problem that occurred in LM19.2: “A stop job is running for running for session …” blocking the shutdown for 90 seconds. I will apply the known solution for that and I have to do that for all installed LM19.2 versions, so the question is, why the default setting DefaultTimeoutStopSec can’t be set to 4 seconds at installing the distro. It’s better to pinpoint the problem of course, but in due time it a solution to a common complaint.

    In the Accessibiliy-options the screen-reader needs a rework. It’s of no help at all for the moment. I was not aware of it, but recently I was asked if linux had an tools for visual impaired users. The standard software on MacOS and Win10 was doing already a good job; I had to admit that for the linux-desktop there was still some work to do.

    Anyhow, I’m still enjoying the great work of the LinuxMint-team. As soon as I get virtualbox-additions working I will start testing.

    1. Thanks,

      I agree on the default timeout value, that’s a very good point, it’s way too long.. (90s afaik). We’ll look into that.

      Out of curiosity, I’m interested in the solution to your particular problem though. What service is holding your reboots and how do you fix it?

      I’d love to improve accessibility, but it’s a bit like Asian and right-to-left languages, it’s something the developers don’t use, don’t really understand and don’t test until there’s a bug report for it. We’re not even at the stage where we’re fixing a bug, we’re not sure what it “should” do, and what it’s missing… we need feedback on this, and guidance. Our hands are tied to a certain extent when it comes to Orca. It’s upstream from us and I’m not sure we can improve it much (other than the occasional patch). If we can integrate it better in Cinnamon though, let us know, we’d be happy to do that.

  17. Thanks Clem for your amazing work on Linux Mint!
    I installed the beta today and it runs smooth!
    If something occurs, I’ll report it on Github! 🙂

  18. Please ! For HIDPI, give the possibility to scale as gnome display config. For example, 100 200 400 scale.
    Very fast on my Nuc Intel. If I can change scale for big TV, it would be perfect.

    1. Thanks,

      If the auto-detection doesn’t work you can turn on HiDPI in System Settings -> Display -> Settings. It should handle 2x and 4x.

  19. …I think it is time I switched to a KDE-based distro. Love a lot about Mint but some decisions just completely baffle me. Release after release, video players seem to be stripped further and further of anything, GIMP being replaced instead of supplemented with a lightweight similar, screensavers being removed, old kernels and libraries (biggest issue…) …Just too much anymore. Feels like a clone of Unity, vaguely reminding me of why Firefox has gone downhill trying to clone Chrome instead of working on security and speed.

    Not to say I haven’t loved Mint for years. It really has been great until the last two or three releases… I just need different things I suppose. Cheers.

    1. I’d like to add that Wayland and double/float DPI multiplier was also a factor. It has been made quite obvious that Cinnamon will /not/ be supporting Wayland /any/ time soon (maybe never?) but worse yet is the dire need to update the backend support for double/float DPI multipliers instead of scaling via integers.

    2. I hope great Mint won’t be going down the path of oversimplification like Gnome, with apps getting easier and easier at the expense of usability. True, VLC and GIMP disappear from the default software, but we can observe nice refinements in other places, like the Nemo context menu (configurable now) and improvements in Xapps. Please, Mint Team, don’t follow Gnome.

    3. These decisions haven’t just been taken, they’ve been explained and we’ve pushed arguments and rationales. They’re good for our project as a whole even if like any decision they’ll please some people more than others.

      Regarding the libs and frozen base, it’s one of the biggest challenges we’ve had and integrating Flatpak helped with that.

      I agree on the float DPI scale, it’s quickly becoming something we need to support and right now we’ve no solution for that.

    4. Hopefully this continues as a reply to #comment-152244:

      Flatpak has too many issues for me to consider it more than a temporary bandaid. Attempting to poke holes through the sandboxing barely works for many softwares. Snap is just terrible altogether, and I’ll admit Flatpak was a better attempt(?) than Snap at trying to address some frozen libs/bases but the world is changing far too fast to use frozen bases anymore (I think, along with many other developers I’ve worked with who are using Manjaro or Arch now).

      As I understand it, Gnome is supposedly the limiting factor (or is it X?) that prevents fixing the DPI issue and only Wayland will resolve it.

      I can easily accept software not being installed by default. Just feels like a “Windows 8 Metro” move is all. Much like “Traditional vs Grouped” Window List.

  20. Great work. I like Mint for easy to use. Is there an option or applet for mounting devices (with read only attribute)? I saw it in Parted Magic.

  21. Bonjour Clem,

    Petite question : qu’en est-il des drivers NVIDIA qui posent encore et toujours problème sur le laptop que j’utilise (GT710M – Driver 340) ?
    Pourquoi lorsque je veux choisir le driver NVIDIA plutôt que ‘nouveau’ dans l’appli Pilotes, je tombe indéniablement sur un écran noir au redémarrage ?

    Merci

    1. Je ne sais pas pourquoi, mais NVidia recommande le pilote 390 pour votre carte graphique. Je suppose qu’il y a une incompatibilité avec les nouveaux pilotes…

      https://www.geforce.com/drivers

      PS Navré j’avais le traducteur enclanché sur cette page du coup j’ai cru que votre message était en anglais…

  22. Great work again dev team! Install and boot times seem to be much faster than 19.1
    While I also add my voice to the desire to see an option to directly launch the installer from GRUB, what I would really like is:
    Change the apt repository to match the location selection so that updates are downloaded from a more local repository.

  23. Hi
    I downloaded and reviewed the beta
    I have previous versions
    When I wanted to send a file to Flash, I right-clicked and moved to it, but it doesn’t exist. If it is in this version it would be great

  24. Many thanks to the Linux Mint Team, you have done a great job!
    But why don’t you leave both in the default software selection – Drawing for the novice and Gimp for the more advanced users? Then everyone has the choice, which application he uses.

    1. Default software is just that.
      Unlike Windows, you can install/uninstall to your hearts content.
      Just uninstall what you dislike and install what you need.
      Advanced users who need Gimp, shouldn’t have problems doing that. I think…
      Also, what if they want Krita instead of Gimp? Should Mint be bundled with everything by default to please everyone?
      Drawing makes perfect sense since it works for the basic and even an advanced user might use it for something less fancy…

    2. Jakob,
      When you buy a mobile phone, you don’t want it to come installed with lots of pre-installed apps.
      For some, minimising the size of the installation disk is important – as far as i know, that’s what Gentoo offers.
      It’s a fine line for the LM team to walk, but i think they are moving in the right direction.

      We know the trouble that Microsoft found itself in the EU for pre-installing it’s internet browser on Windows XP (maybe Windows 98 can’t remember) because by pre-installing the browser it discouraged users from installing another browser. So, Microsoft was made to offer a range of browsers upon installation.
      Google on Android fell foul of EU laws for similar reasons, it’s search engine was pre-installed so it discouraged users from installing an alternative.

      Linux Mint have (in my opinion) a minimum number of programs pre-installed, should I need others, I know there is the Software Centre, where the Linux Mint have curated the available programs into sub-categories of the main program types, and many of the programs have a user rating. It also helps users to understand what is part of Linux Mint and what is third party when it comes to logging issues.

      There is an issue though if users have no administration access to install additional software!

    3. I don’t want to start a debate on principles here, it was just a question. I know that I can replace the preinstalled software with other applications. But I’ve always liked the fact that there was a successful selection of preinstalled software and I did not have to install anything. In my experience, many people use Gimp and would be happy if they found it in the software preselection. Well, for me the topic is done now, everything is all right.

    4. Hi Jakob,

      One of the things I personally don’t like about Windows is the amount of clutter that comes with it and the fact that it doesn’t actually have some of the very basic things people need. A few releases ago we looked at some of the apps we shipped and wondered why they were there.. mintnanny? mintupload? Were they there because they were ours? Were they useful to a majority of our users? No, so we removed them.

      VLC and Gimp… have they been in Linux Mint because they were famous outside of the Linux community? Probably. Are they useful to a majority of users.. no, I don’t think they are. I know they’re excellent apps, and I know there’s no alternative to them if you need their features (I personally use Gimp a lot), but most people don’t. They provide much more than that, and it’s buried in the middle of a huge amount of features many people don’t use and user interfaces which have a very steep learning curve.

      HiDPI also comes into play.

      One of the first things I do now, personally, when I install Mint, is to add Gimp and mintupload (I’m using that one a lot too), but that’s just me. For most people this is a good move. They need a fast media player which is simple to use and a simple app to draw and resize pictures.

      Gimp and VLC become features and they’re still names we want to promote, but in our software manager, not in the default selection.

    5. Hi Clem,

      thank you for your detailed explanation. Many people in my circle of friends use Gimp, so I was probably surprised that it is no longer part of the standard software selection. But now I can understand your reasons better.

  25. I am sorry for posting here but this blog is currently unaccessible from Greece (tried various providers) resulting in 403 access forbidden error. I managed to visit blog from free proxy service. I thought I’d let you know.

  26. Congratulations to Clem and all the team on 19.3. Running the beta on a 6 year old Clevo laptop and no problems whatsoever. First installed Mint back in the days V7 Gloria last decade, and I have to say that the work on design and themes recently has really paid off – Tricia looks great OOTB.

  27. Hello Clem:

    For the New features in Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon page, where it says:
    “The boot menu was also redesigned:”
    The caption under the screen shot reads “System Reports”
    Noticed the same also for Mate and Xfce.

    Nice work on the boot menu by the way.

  28. Hey LM Team 🙂

    First of all, congratulations on yet another great release. It seems to be shaping up very nicely and that new logo does look sleek ^^

    Secondly, I really like what you did under the hood as well – it finally works on some tricky hardware like Lenovo Y530 (the cheap end gaming rigs marked Legion, one with intel optane mixed in and that pesky wi-fi issue and that hybrid graphics LOL) Yay! 19.3b Even offered to install alongside W10. As soon as stable is out I will be finally free from that slow dumb beast W10 has yet again turned into.

    After 25 years in tech I know 2 things:
    1. there is always one more bug 😀
    2. people with bi**h bi**h bi**h about things that don’t work and rarely say thank you for the things that do 😀

    so, Thank you for making this happen 🙂

    Can’t wait to see stable out! Good luck!

    Andy

  29. The only inconvenience I encountered so far is an virtual machine that the shared folder with the guest os isn’t mounted automatically. The sharing of the peripherals works fine, even the sharing of an external usb-harddisk. One has to mount the folder manually with sudo mount -t vboxsf … On lm 19.2 the automatic mounting of the shared folder was working fine and was determined by a setting in the virtual machine. Where can I report this issue?

    1. I think this should be reported upstream directly (to Oracle I mean). Make sure you’re using their latest version of Virtualbox and their latest guest additions.

      No Ubuntu virtualbox packages should be installed, they’re not recommended. We actually removed them from the Driver Manager and System Reports yesterday.

  30. Lots of testing is done in virtual machines, with full installations but also with the live ISO mounted to a virtual machine. I would appreciate it very much if the open-vm-tools-desktop packages can be installed by default in the live ISO. Installing these normally is the first thing I do after booting the virtual machine and it would really save a lot of time and effort if the live Linux system can be enhanced by having these installed by default. Thanks!

  31. Hi Clem, you mentioned the integration of the SpicesUpdate applet for Cinnamon 4.4 a few weeks ago.
    Is there a special reason why it didn|t happen?

  32. Hi Clem and the Linux Mint team.

    Have you ever thought of adding “libinput-gestures” to linux Mint ? It allows you to use multitouch gestures with your laptop touchpad so you can e.g. change workspaces with a 3-finger swipe, which in my opinion is a really good feature 😉 (I use it on daily bases) And especially for new users and just out of a comfort aspect I think it would be pretty nice, if it would be installed by default. You could for example install it during the installation of the sytem automatically if a touchpad is detected 🙂

  33. Running BATA 19.3 Cinnamon on my Toshiba Portege R500 2gigs ram and duel 2.6 mhz like S**T on a cracker smooth… Did not run this well on 18.3, I’m so stoked……

  34. Having installed Mint Cinnamon 19.3 I have come across two (2) problems..
    1. In the screensaver settings if you set it for your own text, it will activate a blue screen with nothing on it.
    2. The root password setting keeps asking for the password even after it has been entered. The only way to stop it was removing it from the taskbar.
    Other that I was very impressed with the installation time..It was installed and up and running on my rig in 3mins.It looks nice so far. Keep up the good work guys.

  35. One translation bug in German: If I want to remove the mint menu icon with the right mouse button, the message appears “Möchten Sie Menu wirklich antfernen?”
    It would have been translated correctly: “Möchten Sie das Menü wirklich entfernen?”

  36. Clem, where did Cinnamenu disappear from Cinnamon Spices, and why doesn’t it work in the latest version of Cinnamon? Sorry, but Cinnamon Menu is primitive, non-ergonomic and very ugly. It looks like Startmenu from Windows XP, but now we are in 2020 (soon), not in 2000.
    It’s time for a change, don’t you think?

    1. Its author was banned after abusing the team and spamming github. The rest of the team didn’t want to support it so it was removed. We’ll add the ability to install spices manually in 4.6, so if this is maintained elsewhere it will continue to live.

      I don’t agree on the style.. but that’s very subjective.

  37. Clem:

    A bit off-topic here but Firefox is throwing up a “security risk” warning for this (Linux Mint) blog due to an expired SSL certificate.

    Just letting you know.

    1. Thanks Kirk, can you post details of the certificate issue? We had networking issues today, they’re resolved now though.

  38. I think there is an issue in Cinnamon that I have “disable compositing for full-screen windows” enabled, and it doesn’t seem to be working which causes a stuttery experience in games. I don’t know if it’s a bug, but are there any other methods to disable compositing in cinnamon?

  39. I’ve just run the 19.3 Beta, and am very disappointed to find the bug where the app icons in the panel do not refresh is still present (https://github.com/linuxmint/cinnamon/issues/8837). This was a regression from Mint 19.1 to 19.2.

    I’ve been a Mint user for about 12 years. I’ve even donated money to the project occasionally. I reported this regression in plenty of time and even went to the trouble of creating and uploading a test application to demonstrate the bug. But still no fix. I think it’s time to move on to another distribution.

  40. Just like to say a big thanks my new ryzen 3700x x570 working great on the beta, will be staying with linux mint .

  41. Hi Clem, concerning slow shutdowns:
    I don’t know MenthaSuaveolens’ problem but in my case it was the cups-browsed.service who triggered the 90 seconds counter. It happened on approx. 5-10% of all shutdowns. After disabling it shutdown takes just a few seconds.

  42. Another fabulous release. At some stage would it be possible to provide a minimal installation option on the ISO please as is found on the Ubuntu installation ISO.

    1. Hi Guy,

      No, we’ve no plans for that. We could consider working on meta packages and making it easy to install a small Mint base ISO, with no DE, on top of which you’d install any of them maybe.

  43. no video thumbnails in nemi after you moved from xplayer to celluloid, anyway to fix it at your side?

    Users can fix it by installing xplayer again, then you will get working thumbnails in nemo.

  44. Hi all
    I have recently installed 19.3 Beta on my Dell XPS 9750. So pleased!! – looks great – like the drawing app
    Only issues were that this Dell has a Killer 1650x wireless module which was not recognised so I had to connect to my iPhone via bluetooth to get the 5.0 kernel update – then all was fine. Would you consider the later kernel as default for the install? Also my apple airpods are seen but wont configure on bluetooth. I have tried setting the mode to dual and un-pairing other devices. It is clearly a common problem – wouldnt connect with Ubuntu either but I seem to recall managing earlier in the year with KDE Plasma. I realise Apple products can be a pain due to Apple’s reluctance to support other systems. Any ideas anyone ?

    1. I went straight for 5.3.0 -24
      Not sure if any of the earlier releases would have sufficed – reading around forums it may have been supported from 5.2.2 onwards. Still, 5.3 appears to be working fine.
      Only Applet I have been having problems with is the Office launcher which causes a switch to fallback mode.

  45. Thanks as always for all your hard work Clem and the entire team behind Linux Mint. Mint is still my favourite Linux Distro and the one I always come back to whenever I’m looking for a simple, sane Linux distro with sensible defaults that ‘just works’ out of the box.

    If I could make two requests, maybe for version 20, I’d humbly ask for the team to have another look at Nemo and see if there are any possible performance optimisations that could be made, especially when viewing the contents of large folders. Nemo still seems to absolutely chug whenever it encounters a folder with even more than a few thousand files in it and will eventually freeze on folders with more than around 5000 files. Additionally, if we could possibly get a ‘Refresh Rate’ option in the display settings window.

    1. Hi Grady,

      I think we need to start doing things ourselves in places where we don’t need gvfs.. when it lags we lag basically.

  46. Well.
    This is not about Tricia, but maybe Iĺl have the same issue. I am running Tina, excellent, but I got problem when copy-paste one text doc from ssd (where Tina happily and freely runs) to another hard disk connected via Usb3.0 to sataIII adapter. It looked as if it was well pasted, but glue was not good, cause when I disconnected the usb adapter and inserted it again the text doc was missing. I repeated the operation three times more and the glue cotinued to be fresh water 🙁 Then I pasted it and changed the name of the text doc and it worked; the doc was was perfectly glued there.
    And another thing. When pasting in LinuxMInt and opening the disk in Windows I have to make a chkdsk /f and letter of unit to see what I pasted in LM. This must be normal, but the strange thing I see is that copy-paste in Linux sometimes does not work and I cant find out the reason. I thought it was because of corrupted ssdcards, but it is the same with usb to ssd.
    The rest of Tina works excellent here. Windows is rarely switched on now. But this issue is annoying sometimes. Good work, waiting for Tricia, and some new features and programms Ive seen coming.
    The commented idea of Timeshift option in Grub Menu, perfect. The BootDiskRepair tool perfect too. Great Job.

  47. Hey LM-Team,
    just a small suggestion on the topic “new logo”.

    If a company changes its logo it is important to change it everywhere. On the forms, the homepage, the company building, the cars, … That is called “corporate identity”.

    You are using the new logo on the boot-screen, on the menu, but using the old logo as standard desktop wallpaper. If i were you i would replace it with the new logo, already for the reason that it is huge on the desktop background. The best place to introduce a new logo to the users.

    Think about it. 😉

    I’m looking forward to the stable release.

  48. After a fresh install, new items are installed. Why are linux-headers for development 4.15.0-72.81 installed while on the same time kernel 5.0.0.37.95 is downloaded. I would expect that the linux-headers for the later are being installed?

  49. I recently replaced my pc with a ryzen 3700x and x570 chipset.
    I did a fresh install of the LM19.3 beta and for some reason kernel 5.0.0 series it does not work with my nvidia card gtx1060. after many hours of trying different things I switched to kernel 4.15.0-72 witch seems to work just fine.
    My concern is that my hardware is not working at full potential wit this old kernel. What can I do to understand what is the problem? In System Reports I could not find anything unusual.

    1. I just want to add that: kernel 5.0.0 series does not work after installing nvidia driver 430, 435, 440

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